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    Default my experience with rapid detox

    I recently underwent Rapid detoxification under anesthesia and all i can say is thank god for The Waismann Method! I had been a recovering addict/alchoholic with several years of sobriety when i had minor surgery and was given Vicodin..fast forward seven years and im snorting oxycontin every 3 hours to avoid starting withdrawals..i spent 3 years basically going through withdrawals every month, all the horrible symptoms, trying to ween, getting doctors to give me suboxone, pure hell..My wife found my pills and next day got in contact with the Waismann Method.
    Within a few days im in a hospital bed. All the people, from everyone at the Method to the nurses and doctor were so compassionate and friendly, and made my issues of shame etc abate.
    I must be honest, when i awoke i felt a little weird for a bit, and had some diarrhea, but after years of such inhumane torture it was a breeze! i still cannot believe im no longer dependant on that soul destroying crap.. I stayed a few days in a place called Domus, which was so caring and ( much) needed at the time that the first few days post precedure you feel a little weak..i sincerely urge any of you who are suffering from this horrible situation to look into this..Their web site is www.opiates.com. I know this almost sounds like an ad but everything i have shared is the absolute truth..i credit them with saving my life, i really tried and just could not do it without their miraculous detox procedure..I still look at my forearms in disbelief that they arent bathed in sweat!. I am back in AA and have phyciatric help at the moment, all of which i believe will help my serenity, but i KNOW i will never touch that stuff again. I HAVE MY LIFE BACK and pray you can find the same relief and end of suffering- i know what you are going through and know what you can become...

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    Relay - Congratulations. I also did UROD three months ago. I did it as an out-patient, big mistake. However, I'm clean and I thank God everyday. Take a look at my story. Also, please make sure you have a good support system. Talk to your wife whenever you feel a craving. Are you on Naltrexone?

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    I did Waismann a couple of years ago. It is was a major attack on my system, I lost a lot of hair about 2 months later and went to a hair specialist in San Fransisco. She attributed it to the shock anethesia and other doses of meds. I got on Naltraxone pill form (Revia) stayed clean for a month, and my husband had surgery and I had to pick up a Diladid RX for him. I had NO recovery plan, no supoport system, I couldn't resist the temptation, I stopped the Revia for a couple of days and dipped into the candy jar, and off and running I was again. I hear that there is a one month shot that can be administered, but expensive. My only concern is if I had some kind of dire or severe accident could they override the Naltrexone without ODing me?

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    Im sorry you had a bad experience, my understanding is that, as with any procedure there is a small percentage that have some uncommon effects.Im sorry also that you couldnt resist again, my heart goes out to you. It was made clear to me that the procedure was to detox from the physical dependency, and that follow up support groups, out-patient programs etc would help with the mental dependency..to be honest, its now been days and im still floating on a cloud, i'm so amazed and happy where i am..I went back for a kind of closure with my other addiction specialist- he's helped me before but i think rapid detox is so cutting edge that he wasnt taught about it at medical school- he even asked if i was still taking suboxone(!), which of course im not..he said Revia ( naltrexone) was the same as suboxone except you dont get withdrawals, which to me means its not the same at all- the withdrawals were what kept me imprisoned!!!
    Thanks Pete, i read your posts wjust after i posted the above..
    im so glad we made it through, and yes, im on Naltexone for about a year i think...If anyone wants more detailed info regarding anything ive said, i would be glad to respond..Thanks and good luck to all

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    sorry- abouve should read its now been 26 days clean..

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    It's crazy how so many doctors don't really know about the meds they deal with. Alot of the SR Members on this site seem to have done a lot more research, or maybe from experience. But I was on Suboxone, and it does have naltrexone, but by no means is it the same as suboxone, because best of my knowledge sub is an opioid and naltexone is the anti-opiate (something like that). It is interesting how the 2 can chemically mix to make suboxone. Also Relay, just got back from detox, so I am once again clean, but did it at Summerhouse, much better than UROD (for me) and they lay on heavy support options. Thanks for your support. Peace out

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    Suboxone does not have naltrexone in it.

    Suboxone is a mixture of buprenorphine (partial opioid receptor agonist - which can get you high) and naloxone (opioid antagonist - again, another blocker). Suboxone is taken sublingually. When taken this way, hardly any of the naloxone gets into the blood and therefore its effect is minimal. Conversely, a sufficient amount of buprenorphine will get through. However, if suboxone is crushed up and injected, enough naloxone will be in the blood to block the effects of buprenorphine. Thus naloxone is included to prevent misuse of this medication.

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    quote:Originally posted by sheffwed

    Suboxone does not have naltrexone in it.

    Suboxone is a mixture of buprenorphine (partial opioid receptor agonist - which can get you high) and naloxone (opioid antagonist - again, another blocker). Suboxone is taken sublingually. When taken this way, hardly any of the naloxone gets into the blood and therefore its effect is minimal. Conversely, a sufficient amount of buprenorphine will get through. However, if suboxone is crushed up and injected, enough naloxone will be in the blood to block the effects of buprenorphine. Thus naloxone is included to prevent misuse of this medication.
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    quote:Originally posted by sheffwed

    Suboxone does not have naltrexone in it.

    Suboxone is a mixture of buprenorphine (partial opioid receptor agonist - which can get you high) and naloxone (opioid antagonist - again, another blocker). Suboxone is taken sublingually. When taken this way, hardly any of the naloxone gets into the blood and therefore its effect is minimal. Conversely, a sufficient amount of buprenorphine will get through. However, if suboxone is crushed up and injected, enough naloxone will be in the blood to block the effects of buprenorphine. Thus naloxone is included to prevent misuse of this medication.

    Naltrexone is nothing more then an abstinant program that could be deadly in relapse . implants are dangerous..for many yrs addicts overdose in treatment with Naltrexone both in tablet and implant form.

    When coroners report the deaths, they are dismissed.

    State Autopsy does not check for Naltrexone in overdose deaths.

    2007 still reports that the once hailed cure, anti craving drug, that will find recovery still remains fraud.

    More and more drugs that once had no warnings when used with Naltrexone are now being rported in product labeling.

    Many of the same drugs patients are being detoxed from are the same drugs that today are warned against in the side effects listed that could be dangerous when Naltrexone is in the mix.


    ONE SLIP AND IT CAN MEAN YOUR LIFE.

    Sad part , Naltrexone will never be reported in autopsy as a contributing drug..Autopsy will read drug overdose.

    OXycontin, percocet, heroin, methodone.ETC...Cocaine can be lethal in Naltreoxne treatment and yet this drug was experimented with for so may drugs.

    Can't help but wonder how many are dead during experimentation ?

    Vioxx was not the only killer drug Merck bought to market.

    Naltrexone is just not repoted in deaths.
    You remain disposable.

    CAROL









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    Oh Carol - you're back.
    Why did you quote me and just sign your name in your first post - I wasn't even advocating naltrexone...
    And your second post is just the same stuff you were saying before, with no new evidence or angle to add. I suggest you check the thread I started which makes reference to a couple of articles and scientific debates on the safety of using naltrexone implants.
    If we're gonna talk science here, lets talk good science with credible referencing and not just rhetoric.

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    The thread I started is titled "Australian naltrexone implant".

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    sheff, dont you think that naltrexone would be good for the for the first month or two of sobriety for a 40-50 mg vic habit? I understand mainling could be fatal, be it seems that for me that it would help with craving until I can get some meetings under my belt and life sorted out w/o cravings. Just short term?

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