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    Default For those who have experienced UROD

    This question is for those who have PERSONALLY undergone UROD..... No anecdotal stories or wive's tales, just facts. I would like to know if it worked for any of you and why it did or did not... I perform UROD, and I have had unbelievable results. Patient selection is key though. It is not for everyone, just like the bigger hummer vehicles are not :) in fact, I have disqualified more people from having the procedure than I have actually approved, for various reasons. I just performed UROD on Friday on a woman addicted to lortab. She went home Saturday morning. She just called to tell me that she just finished jogging, has no cravings, and feels very excited about the rest of her life. She is eating well, has no diarrhea, and slept all night. Now, I know I will not get this type of response with everyone. and I know the GENERALIZERS will probably tear me apart on this thread, but I really want to know why so many on this site seem to be so against something that helps at least some people.
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    personally, I am all for anything that can get addicts clean.

    The problem is staying clean. Without ongoing support and recovery, most are doomed to repeated failure. Some can jog a few days later and never look back. that, I'm afraid, is the vast minority.

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    I agree... And I do not offer this procedure as a way to stay clean. I offer it as a detox procedure..... a step towards sobriety. I have my patients see my licensed alcohol and drug counselors, family physicians, attend group sessions, etc.....

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    Hello Dr. Beckett,

    Forgive me. I SO do not belong on this thread. Although, during my 20+ years as an active dope fiend, I've attempted to get clean in, what I thought, was every possible method under the moon, the stars, the sun and at least four confirmed Black Holes.

    But, nope, I never once tried UROD. Too many horror stories.

    So, why am I highjacking your thread? OK, lemme tell you...

    While I am tremendously interested in reading the personal stories of the "UROD Folks" you asked to share their tales, no matter what result they each experienced (though I hope all were nothin' but bliss!), once you receive enough reply-responses to come to, well---some conclusion...and once I finally hear, from the (no disrespect!) horse's mouth, all about the real-life successes(?), I would also suggest that you ask that same question to all those, uh--"other" UROD" folks who are, today, sharing all those horror stories.

    Other words, what went SO right? And, of course, what went SO wrong?

    Just a thought.

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    quote:Originally posted by beckettmd

    I agree... And I do not offer this procedure as a way to stay clean. I offer it as a detox procedure..... a step towards sobriety. I have my patients see my licensed alcohol and drug counselors, family physicians, attend group sessions, etc.....
    http://www.heroin-detox.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=8

    Curious...what's your success rate 1 year post UROD treatment...percent still clean? I would suspect your track this.

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    Ah... Here we go.... First of all, UROD is a detoxification process..It is not a brain transplant or a behavioral modifier. It is a procedure to induce withdrawal and shorten the overall process, thus roviding more comfort. I wonder what the success rate is for 24 hour fitness??? How many of their clients never lose those 20 pounds that they had in mind when they signed up. if I touted this to be a complete cure package for addicts, then it would make sense that I should follow thema year out. I track those things which I promise to improve, such as withdrawal symptoms like headaches, nausea, vomiting, back pains, cravings, etc......And my record is pretty good there. I spoke to my client again today, and she is complaining of a slightly upset stomach. However, she admits that she felt so good last night that she went to an italian restaurant last night and had spaghetti and meatballs for dinner, which was clearly against my diet advice for the first 48 hours post-procedure. But not enev a slight stomach upset kept her from being out all day today. She slept well last night. She is actually going back to work tomorrow (another violation of my post procedural instructions).

    So, my procedure does pretty much what I say it will. And my paperwork clearly tells them about counselors, group sessions, etc. that they will need to lead a sober life.

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    Is it a really expensive procedure?

    (:DHow about the brain transplants? Those pretty cheap? Could you come here and do a few of them? ;))

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    Dee...Congrats on being off the MMT. The cost of the procedure is $9500, which includes family practice visits, licensed alcohol and drug counselor visits, the overnight stay in our facility, all meds, and the procedure itself.

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    Wow. Is it all private pay or does insurance cover any of it?

    By the way, I think it is just wonderful that you help addicts with withdrawal. Wish there were more out there like you.

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    quote:Originally posted by beckettmd
    [It is a procedure to induce withdrawal and shorten the overall process, thus roviding more comfort. I wonder what the success rate is for 24 hour fitness??? How many of their clients never lose those 20 pounds that they had in mind when they signed up.
    Well, I would kind of suspect that people at 24 Hour Fitness tend to lose weight and then have a higher success rate of staying thin because they worked for it spilling a lot of sweat and tears in the process. Nothing worth having comes easily. No pain, no gain theory. Regards, Arlene

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    Forgive me for interjecting here, I am an lortab addict in recovery, now 8 months clean and 1 month off benzo's. I am refering to my youngest brother, now 37, who got into a vicous Heroin addiction and underwent many treatment programs, including UROD, which initally seemed to help, but he got sucked right back in, and now has Hep-C - I just do not think he will recover. He started in his teens and it has just dragged on. I agree on the 'aftercare' the help and support necessary after the fact to keep one C&S - i have found it on this board, my lifeline, and going to NA meetings.

    There is actually a UROD board, as an FYI - maybe it would be a good idea to post there.

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    I applaud you for attempting to get input regarding results of UROD. As with all forms of treatment, meaningful statistics are hard to find. The data that we receive in a laboratory does not always reflect the occurrence in the real world. For example, statistics from scientific studies say that it is nearly impossible to lose weight and keep it off. Yet, we all know people who have successfully battled their weight demons. Many scientists in the field of barometrics realized this and took their "laboratories" to the streets. Their results differed dramatically from the in-house laboratory results.

    I encourage you in your attempt to arrive at meaningful conclusions. You will receive opinions from many who would discourage you from your work. Yet, it doesn't make sense that people on this forum would discourage an attempt to gather data that could lead to improved treatment possibilities for the opiate dependant person. As a scientist, I thank you for your efforts.

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