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    HST
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    Default UROD Melbourne Australia

    I was wondering is anyone knew of a place in Melbourne Australia that does UROD or even delayed ROD? Or even a board that can direct me?

    What sort of benzodiazepines do they give you, and do they allow longer usage because of Sub's half-life? Does this half-life make the experience more difficult?

    Many thanks [:o)]

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    hi hst, welcome. i'm hoping that someone will come along with answers to your question. i suggest you use the wretched search engine and do some reading here on urod. my experience was the most traumatic of all my many many detoxes and i still suffer from it many years later. it did not keep me clean. i can't imagine how rough it would be with sub. good luck to you.

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    Hi HST,

    I currently reside in Perth and I'm familiar with the staff at the Fresh Start Drug Detoxification Clinic. They employ rapid opiate detoxification for addicted patients and this involves consultation, tapering of opiates in the days leading up, the use of sustained-release naltrexone (implantable), with recovery supervised. I believe counseling and other psychosocial strategies are mandatory for the post-detoxification period. I'm not sure what benzodiazepines they administer, but if I'm not mistaken, patients are prescribed enough for 2 weeks post-detox. The reason I'm telling you all this is because I think there's a sister-program in Melbourne called the First Step Program. I will private message you the contact details for the clinic.

    Their website doesn't seem to be working. However, the Perth clinic website is up and contains relevant information:
    http://www.freshstart.org.au/

    I'm not aware of any other rapid detoxification clinics in Melbourne, but I would encourage you to do your homework, look around, and make sure that ROD is the right thing for you. As spinal_fusion indicated, UROD or ROD can be quite traumatic and won't necessarily ensure that you stay clean - it's the post-detox strategies that will ensure you stay on the road of recovery.

    Best wishes,
    sheff

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    Hey thanks for the kind replies guys,

    I went to the doctor to discuss the options and turns out there is no UROD units in Melbourne at all. There used to be but the success rate was so low and the physical risks too great so they stopped. I was told that some other major cities in Australia still have them, although still relatively rare compared to other countries: including Sydney, and he also mentioned that one in Perth.

    The only options he said that were available are to get an implant (rare in Melbourne but possible); or to go into a detox unit (only public units exist and are free). These two are both unsuitable for someone on such a high dose of Suboxone and to be considered for either of them you have to be ~6mg. The detox inpatient option only goes for 1 week which is obviously useless for Suboxone in general since you will start full blown withdrawals as you are leaving, lol.

    Also 16mg cold turkey would be absolutely heinous. I couldn't believe what I was reading on here about that girl who did it... [xx(]

    Anyway if you're in Melbourne chances are you have the same doc [8D](great guy) so will get the same options. When it boils down to it there is no quick fix rapid solution, methadone/Suboxone gradually decreasing over an extended period of time (heard of people doing this over years) seems to be the thing. From experience you won't even feel the decrease even if it is -2mg/week, until you get down into the <6mg, and then finally doing the 2-4mg jump (which wouldn't be too bad, have jumped from 10mg before & survived).

    Sorry if this got off topic from UROD, and thanks to the yanks for letting me post. But yeah there must've been some serious problems for it to be stopped down here, and once again the success rate was said to me really minimal. Medical practice (have a doc father so learn a lot) in Australia seems to be incredibly well monitored & regulated with not as much "quick cure" quackery & money harvesting you might see elsewhere.

    It seems this cure may work for a few (awesome) but by and large it is still very much controversial in efficacy and safety. What goes up must come down with equal severity.

    Many thanks.

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    hst - a blessing in disguise. i can't imagine how horrific it would be to urod off of 16mg sub. i expect that it would have been horrendous for you. you might read some posts from a member here whose name is "jdude". he posts a lot of taper schedules. you might in fact pm him as well. there is a board here devoted to sub and there's a wealth of experience to read through. if i were in your place i would set myself into a slow taper down to four then seek a 30 day program followed by an aa/na program. it's tough but it can be done with help from others. good luck.

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