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    Default Is there a difference between Pill\Liquid Form

    I was wondering weather there is any diffrerence in the form of what it is taken in and would that effect the WD symptoms or how long it might take to get over?

    Reason I ask is I was told that the Liquid is much worst ,but coould not figure any reason to it?

    I have only taken Pill form and hope that makes a difference however small.

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    Hi Done,
    Thanks for sharing on my thread! (I'll comment on that in a minute)As for the diffrence between the two...this is what I've heard....the liquid is slightly stronger. I started out on the liquid and switched to pill. I liked the pill better and didn't notice athing when I switched. Since I'm going down in 2 & 3 mgs, I had to go back to liquid. I noticed this time. I don't think the liquid carries me as long as the pill. I feel the liquid faster than the pill but can't say that its stronger. Frankly, I think theres probably very little difference. I think I was so acutely aware because I'm detoxing and overly sensitive about anything and everything...you know?

    I think I have a pretty addictive personality too. I think I have often times hit in the sexual arena also but never really became full blown with it, as I am familiar with some that have. Being aware that the addictiveness exists is half the battle and that it doesn't always revolve around a chemical. Luckily, my value system kept me from getting too "out there" with the sex thing. And of course on methadone its been .....sex who?
    Aside from all of that, I just want this over.
    Nice chatting wuth you Done.....keep up the good work..this can't last forever.
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    CAMMIE
    No,nothng last forever,but somwthinga I wish had or will. Have meny fond memories and hope to make a few more before lifes over.

    It's been hot in the Northeast crner of the US and last night only a few hrs. sleep. Nothing like CA. or the deswert though which I have memories of and where it sometimes gets much to hot.

    I have to do this! No other way for me now ,I can see that.The last few yrs. I have seen nothing but loss. It has to start to change sometime.

    After the dog leaves I will have less to deal with ,but one less family member to put up with.He is to old to keep going on and hopefully the last loss I have to experience. My sister knows my plight,but she is sick also,but much worst.Her HepC may becoming back after breing in remission which sux. She was on Interferon and got better.Now it might be going in trreverse again plus she splints to her spine along with compressed disc which makes chores hard for her .She can hardly move at times.

    So life is a real struggle,but when looking at the world there are many stories which give me hope and strength that I need.

    I pray I am through this soon as it's hard ,but I know I want and have to be completely clean if I want to live right.

    GL Larry

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    quote:Originally posted by Done Using

    I was wondering weather there is any diffrerence in the form of what it is taken in and would that effect the WD symptoms or how long it might take to get over?

    Reason I ask is I was told that the Liquid is much worst ,but coould not figure any reason to it?

    I have only taken Pill form and hope that makes a difference however small.

    TIA

    Yes...

    The pill form has a shorter half-life, meaning it doesnt last as long.

    The pill form is what they give to Chronic pain patients,IE: every 6-8
    hours as they need 3-4 doses in a day to control pain. Liquid(Oral solution)has a much longer half-life, they say 10-14 hours but i have
    always heard 24-72 hours..I believe the latter because "I" sometimes
    would forget to dose(Take-homes)and not realise it till the next day.
    It all depends on the persons metabolism as far as how the half-life
    effects them..People with faster metabolism will feel they need to dose sooner than one with a slower metabolism(which i believe i have)

    As far as the last part of your question..Once your on Methadone for
    awhile Pill/Liquid, it builds up in your fatty-tissues and is the same
    as far as W/D while detoxing..

    -Sean



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    Sean,
    If that were true.....How/Why would clinics give out the pill form in equal amounts as the liquid? I think you refer to the analgesic effects of methadone only last 5 to 6 hours for the chronic pain sufferer. As far as holding an addict from withdrawing I really suspect that they're pretty equal other wise the ppl on the clinic would be flipping in 5 to 6 hours and need double the dose! The pill form would quickly become nonexistant for those on methadone for addiction. I mean I damn sure wouldn't choose it.At my clinic we have the choice of pill or liquid.

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    I bet seeing that each enter the Blood Stream differently they may react slightly differntly as far as it's time to take effect and long term life.
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    After thinking about it they enter the same way,through the lining of the stomach.

    The damage or reaction to our Brain must be the same as the chem make up is the same.

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    quote:Originally posted by acefrehley

    people like to make things up u need to relize this stuff is regulated by our govmnt so one supposedely is not diferrent from another in methadone sulfate qauntity just fillers that dont mean crap
    Its Methadone hydrochloride, not Methadone sulfate...

    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/PEOPLE/INJU.../methadone.htm


    Well first off, I'm not making things up...Look it up (Google)

    And second, I have never seen or heard of any clinic dose with 10mg (white)
    methadone pills.[u](assuming were talking about pill form)</u> They dose with 40mg dispersible tabs which BTW, is the same
    thing as liquid..But i [u]drank </u>the orange dispersible tabs/wafers made by (Lilly)they
    put warm water on them and mixed them with a coffee stir stick..I
    have seen people swallow 1/4's of the wafers(Like pills), they just
    got the wafers at a clinic i was at in Oregon, and they were having
    the clients swallow them with water,(nasty) [xx(]


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    Interesting discussion.

    I've taken both the 40mg wafers dissolved in water, in the that lousy juice as well as cherry dispensed liquid. Never was on 10mg pills.

    However...what I do remember well is that whenever the Clinic switched to a different brand or color of any Methadone/Methadose...someone complained that "it wasn't holding them."

    I think that fear of change...anything that isn't familiar...was the root. We get "comfortable" in our own discomfort. Sooo...change something up on us and we're instantly suspicious of the change.

    I would suspect that Sean's right...that it does takes the 10mg pills a longer time to metabolize.

    But more importantly, IMHO, is that...in the end...it doesn't matter. If we've been on Methadone on for any signficiant amount of time...and in any significant amounts...the WD is still fairly miserable. No matter the "way" we ingested it.

    That being said...again I think it goes back to a mindset. Do we want OFF or do we stay stuck in wondering about the methodology/color, etc. of the way we ingested MMT?

    Just one woman's opinion. Warmly, Arlene

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    The original question had nothing to do with 10mg pills....so don't know why we're talking about that???????????????? Or possibly it did....Done Using did not specify what type of methadone pill. However, that was the one I responded to. Again, there is little to no difference in the pill/wafer and liquid that the clinic dispenses, which is what I had said. I believe the dispute was over the pill (non-specified) only lasting 5 or 6 hours. My sister, chronic pain, is prescribed the wafers...lots and lots and lots of them. She drives a small truck home from the pharmacy loaded down! (of course I'm kidding...)But she does get huge bottles of the wafers. BTW...we had our wafers mixed w/ tang, Texas used the orange crap in their liquid and Okla uses red liquid. So now that we've gotten that all out...wheres ACE anyway???



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    So now that we've gotten that all out...wheres ACE anyway???

    In testing probably,LOL--Next it'll be called "SOYLENT GREEN"

    In fact there was a movie with Sean Connery where they all killed on a spacecraft for a drug.This stuff reminds me of that movie.It almost amkes you go crazy when in WD's.

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    quote:Originally posted by Cammie

    The original question had nothing to do with 10mg pills....so don't know why we're talking about that???????????????? Or possibly it did....Done Using did not specify what type of methadone pill.
    As I read the question...and answered the question...it was about the impact of WD based on the different type's of Methadone/Methadose; pill, wafer or straight juice pumped out of a computerized machine.

    But more important, for me, was the GOAL of the question on the floor. I took it to mean is WD going to be more difficult or softer coming off of different forms.

    Either way...the GOAL, IMHO, is to get OFF! Now that's what I'm talking about! LOL :D Love, Ar

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    In a way Arlrene ,as I was told that the Liquid form was more addicting for some reason and harder to get off from for some reason.

    My goal is trying to find the easiest way to come off it without wanting to die for a year which is how I feel now and I am not even at zero yet!

    If I had only known how bad this junk was I would have ran away if anyone mentioned the word METHADONE to me.

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