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Hmm...OK, I'm gonna give you my opinion based on my interpretation of the rather jumbled history you've given here. If I understand correctly, it appears that you are having difficulty stopping the methadone completely at the end of your taper. Classic PAWS is the symptoms you experience for months after you completely detox off the drug so I don't think this is causing your difficulty yet.
Let me say this, it is often more difficult to detox on subsequent attempts. And there are many factors that can also contribute, including age, length of time on the drug, etc. I can remember one or two clinic clients, much younger than me, who detoxed off rather high methadone doses in jail, and walked back into the clinic a few days later looking pretty darn functional. It sorta stuns me now, remembering that, after what I experienced getting off methadone.
If my initial impression is correct here, I would highly recommend trying to get some clonidine pills, which could be extremely helpful with getting you off the methadone at the end of your taper here. Then you can utilize vitamins, etc. to minimize PAWS once you've gotten thru the acute detox. I used clonidine to get off methadone and I highly recommend it.
Also, it might be helpful if you start your own thread here. Just select "new topic" and then cut and paste your initial post. I can then cut and paste my reply and you can keep all posts related to you on the same thread.
I am by no means a expert on PAWS or W/D. What i can share is my two expirences detoxing.The last time i detoxed i tryed sleeping pills and what ever food i get down.By day five i was completly sure i was dead by the next day if i didnt get some methadone, My nausea would cause me to throw up plain water and salteens,and it went hand in hand with being restless no able to stop moving no sleep came to relive the pain no matter how tired i got. I litterly felt someone had stabbed me in both kidneys and left me for dead.This was all from cold turkey at a 40-60 mg a day habit on the street.
I am now on my second and final atempt to drudge this crap out of my soul.I am going to say what i see alot of people saying around here hehe but trust me it works im on day 6 and aside from feeling like there is a 10ft bastketball player i have to carry around im doing pretty well.The first thing i did the i took my last dose i cut all stimulants out of my diet completly,thats not just caffine it is anything that is over sugar bearing soda,donuts,candy,coffee,and even most cold cereals.
The second thing i did was to get a list of vitamins to use i will provide what i used here i took all of them at a very low dose a higher one i would suggest be better say twice a day instead of once
Selenium: 100mg dose 1xday(my dose):builds antioxidants
Milk thistle:150mg 1xdaily :Helps protect liver from toxins
Flax/Fish oil:1000mg 1xday::heart and other vital system's health
Papaya Enzyme:45mg 3xday:Helps to turn food into nutriant and help digestive track
L-glutamine:750mg 1xday:Supose to help rebuild nerons i belive
Vit C:1000mg time released 1xday: i would go with the time released
Lycopene:5mg 1xday : powerful antioxidant
Golden seal&echinacea:500mg/400mg 1x day:flushes ya and also helps immune system/Niacin could be subsituted for the golden seal but usally is not comfortable unless time realsed capsules
Multi vit:get a good one geared towards you age/sex
Meletonin:3mg 4xat bed time: helps you to get to sleep
Valarian root:100mg : use for anxiety and also right before bed
Imodium A/D: helps with the trips to the bathroom very well
i also went to my doctor cost a bit but i was precsribed
trazadone:50mgx1-2 at bed time as needed
Vistaril:50mgx1 every 6 hours as needed : good with the aniexity restless ness and the icky feelings
i have also seen on just about every forum Colonidine as working very well person to person although you will need to monitor your bp when using it.
I basically lived in the tub for the first three days i was in full swing detox by 12pm the day after i stopped taking Methadone.
It came hard and fast but not nearly as bad as last time im not going to say it is a cure all you will fell like himself has sat on shoulder and is tempting you to give up. Be strong hehe gag down what u can for food. I am on day six now and i bileve that everyday is getting better just a little bit day by day.
I am a total insomniac right now on day 6 if you wanna talk im cruisin the boards alot hehe.
I think if your already feeling the withdrawl just say if i stop im one day closer to the flood gate of life opening back up.that is the way it feels to me but ya know after being numb and high for so long i welcome it all with open arms and i also figure you cant feel so good for so long without a draw back and i guess thats what detox is there for :)
Anyway like i said if ya need someone to talk to or just bored or whatever just say the word and i will reply eventually.This will get better thats what they keep saying hang in there.
I recommend switching from methadone to something with a smaller half-life. that worked well for me. then you can detox with bupe.
its really to painfull to write about trying to detox from methadone. it ruled my life. it destroyed my relation
I cold turkey quit 100 mgs. of methadone. However, I should point out that on Day 6 I went to the hospital, then spent about 10 days, in, of all places, the Psych. Ward.
I'm bipolar and my meds were off, on top of everything else. So I went to the hospital because I felt suicidal, plus I had serious rage and mania due to too high a dose of Prozac. That was definitely worse for me than the physical withdrawal. Although I guess the "Heebie Jeebies" is both psychological and physical, ya know?
Anyway, I feel great and my physical health was never a serious issue. Also, any day was better than a heroin detox day. It's horrible, but in a more subtle way.
Thanks for being there. I only posted on a few days, but it was SO GREAT to get support, instead of looks, like, "are you out of your mind?"
I should add that I only used methadone since February, so your results may differ, as they say.
I have more energy plus an extra $150 a month for something other than drugs!
I'm not going to say, "if I can do it, anyone can" right now. I think I'll just go out and buy those running shoes I've wanted for the year, and bask in some well deserved self congratulation. But I won't get too happy. That's trouble too.
I was on Methadone for 8 months for a broken bone at the first lumbar vertebral body. I had been on hydrocodone for 10 months prior for the same injury. One day I went to the pain management doctor. I then cleaned out my truck and accidently threw away the script for a month's supply he gave. When I went back to tell the doctor what happened, they showed me a contract I signed saying that they would not give more than one script. I was so pissed, I swore it off for ever. As you well know the next seven days were hell. My new wife was freaked out by my withdrawl, and so was I. I could not eat, I would cry if I even tried, I could not sleep, I got very irritable with everyone and did nothing but lay in the bed staring at the ceiling wishing I would die for a week. It was by far the worst experience I have ever had. Because of the back pain, I got back on hydro after 30 days, then I worked up to fentanyl. Now I am clean. It has been a long hard road. I am still fighting a weekly binge drinking (about a 12 pack) However, where I am today is a long way from the methadone and fentanyl days. I am not sure if I qualify for a success story when it comes to methdadone but would just like to say I have no desire to take any methadone. I wouldn't if I had a bottle of it right here. Maybe it is because there are no pleasant memories with it.
Hey all, just new here. I thought it would help those who are looking at kicking methadone to read that I was on a methadone programme for over a year. In the last six months I tapered down to 1 ml (5mg) of methadone and then stopped. I experienced medium withdrawals for two weeks, my main problems were with the restless, aching legs and the sleeplessness, and the lethargy. I figured two weeks would be the worst of it but I was wrong. I soon found that the worst time (for me) was in the 4 to 6 week period. I did not get any gastrointestinal symptoms and with the help of controlled valium use (I gave all my medicines to my support person who in that case was my mum) and interestingly I got a lot of relief from a synthetic painkiller called Tramal. The doctors claim that this medication is not addictive and I did not find them to be wrong. In all I would say it took about five months to be completely rid of any side effects, before I was sleeping well and had no physical memory of the drug. I was clean for about six years. I really felt that the fear I had about what withdrawing from methadone was not as bad as the reality, but it was certainly memorable enough to not touch any substances for a very long time. My advice to anyone worrying about an impending withdrawal.... YOU CAN DO IT!!! YOU REALLY CAN! It's not going to be as bad as you think, but I do recommend tapering to the lowest possible dose... DONT LOOK BACK! Move ahead and start living! Best of luck and my thoughts are with all of you facing methadone withdrawal.
Does anyone have any suggestions for me. I'm so scarred right now. I just started a new job while going through my 28 day detox from methadone. I have 3 days left and I'm done. I just don't want to go through wd's at this new job. Should I try to get on suboxon or go to phsyc doc?? Does anyone have any suggestions. I've been doing fine through this detox, I'm just scarred it's gonna catch upwith me, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna get back on methadone or percs. That was my addiction and I got put on methadone, God knows i wish i would have done my research
I am crying! Thank you for your stories and how brave you all are! I have been free from MMt for over 2 yrs now, before that long time heroin and pill abuser. I too believe G-d or some higher power helped me, my detox was pure hell would never do it again. Will post my story sometime, when you need about two days to read it!! Much love and blessings to you all!
forever trust in who we are__and nothing else matters
This thread is for sharing experiences about successfully stopping Methadone use.
There are many myths and "urban legends" regarding Methadone such as "Endorphin deficiency", "permanent brain damage", etc. This thread will de-bunk these myths.
Dear freakedout this is my first time here, so some of the info I print may already be up, but I don't think it can be seen enough. I am now 4 months and 10 days clean, and it only gets better. Did I have pain? Yes, but nothing compared to the pain of methadone and the withdrawal from it. I have my well being back, I have my soul back, I have my emotions back, now let's de-bunk those myths the Dr's and clinics spoon fed us to keep us prisoners for life. this is from Dr. David Arenson "as your body heals and the receptors are synthesized in the body your own enkephlins and endorphins (natural body opiates) will start to be interactive in pain management??¦this may not be enough??¦yet many cases of chronic pain will subside if serotonin levels in the brain can be increased??”the reason for doing amino acid therapy is to increase these levels. Anti-depressants don??™t increase the production of anything over the long term??¦in fact it is well known that in the long term they decrease levels of neurotransmitters such as serotonin. Amino acids therapies work well on most cases of fibromyalgia even though many of these patients will fall victim to the use of methadone which just creates more problems. The good news is that if a fibromyalgia patient will start the following protocols to get off methadone??¦these are the same basic protocols for treating Fibromyalgia??¦" If not already up I hope it helps. Your Friend in recovery, Max
if you got this far and your okay the last small mls are nothing ..youre basically swimming on your own now. If you jump from 1 mg(i assume) you wont notice it...you should be okay
Boy Hayley, your 2 cents is worth a million bucks, I could never understand people coming to the clinic once a week for a 1 to 5 mg dose? who thought that sh*t up? (sorry for profanity) Well I think we all know the answer to that one. I jumped at 20 and wish I would have jumped sooner, I kept myself in withdrawal for 2 years on that stinking dose, and it reeked havoc on my body. I thought if I still feel this way when I jump off, I will kill myself!(just like the selfish drug addict that I am) Well, my Higher Power, family and very good friends were all there to catch me when I jumped. Max[;^)]
Two and a half years clean!! Cold turkey off of 180+ mgs for over two years. This site was pivotal in pulling it off. May God comfort you guys in this time. I feel for every one who has "rented" some huge balls and took that leap. A life on methadone is not a life in forward motion. Good luck to all!
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