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    Default Help with methadone withdrawal!!!

    First of all i have to say that im from Portugal,and my vocabulary isn't very extensive ,so im gonna try my best to express myself!Im addicted to methadone for many yeaid of not be able ars,and im very tired,i want to be free,i dont know what that is for a long long time!The main reason is because im afraid to suffer(i dont know if this is the right word in english),i 'd love to know what medication can i take to detox from methadone,without suffering...Please help me,im on 20mg methadone,and i can't afford a clinical treatment!Im very desesperated,and my relation with pain is very bad,thats why i took methadone to detox from heroin!Im very afraid of not be able to leave methadone!Can u describe the process day while detoxing,what do we feel,when do we feel better!I need to read from people who had been throuh this!Thank u,and ill be waiting for your responses anxiously!!!

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    yes, suffering is the right word in english, unfortunately. i don't know anything about methadone, so sit tight and someone will answer you :)

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    Welcome maitie...I'm sure Dave and those with direct experience will reply soon. What dose did you taper or reduce from. How long have you been at the 20mg?
    Just questions to help us help you.

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    Thank you for your quickly answer!i tapped from 45mg,im on 20mg for 5 months!Im very afraid of detos ,im completly in panic!I just have one sure,and that is that i don't want to continue on meth.oh,god ,if i could explain what is on my mind every single day...but i know u all know it very well or had felt it as i do!IM very hopfull about being helped over here!The medical place where iam medicated ,they simple doesnt care if im sucessfull or not tapping(is it the right verb-tappe)the dose,if im feeling bad ,they advice me to rise up...do u understand me,im making a big effort to my english be easy to follow!HOpe to hear from u very soon!

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    Hey maitie...don't worry about the language thing. Addiction has it's own language that we all understand.

    The anxiety and panic issues are real....but they are more of an emotion.Yes, physical as well, but you've done a great job already by reducing your dose more then 50% [^]
    I'm sure there will be some others along to help you with a taper and detox plan.
    But know you can do this..as so many have before you. And a life without the drugs is so..so.. worth the effort.:)

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    Hi Maite..Glad you are here reaching out, that is a great first step toward getting clean. You don't have to do it alone! THere are many people here at this site that want to help you. Don't even worry bout the language, I can understand what you are saying, most of us likely can, if not all.
    When it comes to detox, the FEAR is worse than the actual process. Please don't panic, that is an emotion that will not get you anywhere. Many many people have gotten off of Methadone and went on to live wonderful fulfilling lives. You can be one of them!! The reward of being off of opiates is incredible. It will be difficult at first, it was/is for anyone at all. HOwever, it most certainly can be done..Keep reaching out Maite, stay with us. Together we can make a plan to get you free from Methadone. I was never on Methadone maintenance but many were. Peacenik (screen name) should be along to give you some ideas. He was on a lot of Methadone and has now been clean a long time..You can be too!!! Hang in there Maite





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    Hi Maite~

    I don't know how fast or slow you are wanting to get off..It seems to me, that time is a huge help in trying to come off methadone..if you can go slow. Start out cutting your dose by a milligram or two...sit at that for a week or so..then progress to the next cut. It is the least painful way of detoxing off methadone. You will feel some discomfort,hot and cold,not so good sleep. But if you can take your time..you will still be functional while tapering..Not going to say once you get down to 5 milligram or less it will be easy. But better than jumping from 20 mg.
    Are you on a program..or with a Dr...are they helping you with the taper you have done so far.
    A lot of people here have used Imodium and clonodine to help after the jump. The clonodine is a
    blood pressure medicine..so for sure ask a Dr. about that one. Imodium is an over the counter medicine for diarrhea, but it does help alleviate some wd symptoms..tho it can mess with some people stomachs.
    Well.. I have to work here..but will check back later to see if you have replied. And so you know, I tapered from 120 milligrams over the course of 14 months...but my frame of mind was not in
    good place when I got to the end. And I ended up relapsing..As for today..this Sunday I will be 8 weeks clean.
    Love and best wishes..we all understand your feelings regardless of the drug we chose to taper off of.
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    Hi maite,
    Good morning :) I was having a little trouble getting on yesterday but all is well now.

    OK. One very good thing is you haven't been on a real high dose. And at 20, you're getting down there already. So lets just say you're half the way home.

    Now it's true, the second half is harder, but there's no need to panic. the most important thing is to really believe in yourself, that you want to live drug free. Get your surroundings in order, meaning, get away from your old sources of drugs. throw away your phone numbers or whatever.

    The endgame maite, the final stages of detox and early recovery, involves what I like to call getting from point A to point B. Hope the language isn't too tough for you, but it means getting to that point, maybe 60 days after your last dose, where your desire to stay clean is stronger than your desire to use.

    See, we're addicts, we all want to use at first. We start this detox process usually because we have gotten into some kind of trouble. Or we just can't stand the constant struggle to get drugs. But if you hang in there, put yourself in a safe place, and stay clean, in time you'll forget all about drugs.

    You asked about those of us who have done this, well if you look up at the top of our main page you'll find our "Success Stories" I'd read all of those. My story is up there, but keep in mind, I was on methadone, heroin, and other drugs for many years. My road was very tough. It doesn't need to be that hard for you maite. But you do have to get determined. Yes, you may feel uncomfortable for a while, but freedom? Freedom is worth it don't you think?

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    Thank u all!Im very conforted to know that there are people that really cares about my problem!
    I've read the success stories,but im dont want to feel very sick during the detox,i,ve a seven years old son and i dont want him to see me like im dying!is there any medication that i can take ?iF i stop taking meths on 20mg,am i gonna feel very bad?Do u know a medication named lofexidine?What are the worst symthoms that im gonna feel?And if u take clonidine,will u be able to be off your bed?the detox process last for 15 days ,when do we start to feel better ,after we stop completly meth?Once again thanks for your support!!!!!!!!!GOD BLESS YOU ALL,ALL THE BEST IN LIFE FOR YOUR LIFES!!!

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    maite,
    If you don't want to go through acute withdrawal, then don't jump off 20. Detox all the way down at whatever rate will keep you OK.

    Personally, I couldn't deal with that slow a detox but many people do real well that way. Read Boost's thread. He's dropping only 1 or 2 mgs at a time and not feeling too bad.

    Lofexidine, I think, is maybe like clonidine. If so, it will help with the worst symptoms. It's a concern when detoxing, that we don't get into another drug habit. That's how we ended up on methadone in the first place :)

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    I ,ve been on 2mg once ,but i had to work and i wasn't in my 100% and in my job i have to deal with lots of people,and i needed to drink very much to be almost fisically normal,i was on prozac too,but that two things were doing me very bad (im bartender), so i went to my doctor andd she said i've got to be stable so it was better to rise up my dose and i just got stable on 20mg!!!So everything that i made went flushed away!I dont understand why the doctor didnt gave me something to end up with my addiction with such a low dose (2mg).Now i dont drink and im not on prozac,but im very sad with my doctor because never helped me in a way to stay out of meth!!!

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    OK maitie. So you understand about how you can mess up by drinking or taking pills as you get low on your methadone.

    I'll tell you how it worked for me. After many tries I finally made it when I realized I had to give up all the drugs. I'd quit dope, but get messed up drinking. I'd figure I'd be all right just smoking pot, but it would lead me back to drinking and then narcotics. I went on methadone, but that never did it for me either.

    So, if you are like me, I think you've got to figure on learning to enjoy life without drugs. I'll tell you something - millions of people do it. It's nowhere near as big a deal as we fear it is.

    There's nothing wrong with having some help from your Dr getting through the detox. But I'd suggest you really need to make getting free your number 1 priority. Hopefully you'll be OK at work, but getting off drugs is the more important thing. I couldn't work for a while when I kicked and that is definitely OK because I've gone on afterwards to enjoy success in my carreer that I never would have dreamed of. You can do it too maite.

    Take your time dropping off, and when you get to zero, you just don't use, no matter what. After a while, you'll be ok :)

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