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    I am doing research for my husband who is currently on 51 mgs of Methadone tapering off one mg every other day. Has anyone tried Buspar to help with cold turkey methadone withdrawls? The clinic he goes to is not helpful with detoxing. We are trying to find a physician who is experienced with methadone withdrawls, but are doing our own research as well. If anyone has any knowledge or first hand experience with Buspar please post!
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    To clarify I am referring to Buspar the anti-anxiety prescription. Not the drug contained in Suboxone.

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    pdiddy,
    Hi welcome to the forum. I don't know anything about Buspar, but I do know about kicking methadone.

    Most of us feel that Clonidine was the best at reducing withdrawals especially the worst symptoms. Myself, I had gotten to the point, when I kicked, that I didn't feel anything really helped with the general edgieness and uncomfortability. I kinda just waited it out :)

    I'd encourage you to read around the forum. There's some great success stories up above some of us here have made it off methadone and some are detoxing now. You can do this - it's not easy, you kinda have to be willing to work through it. Unfortunately, there is no magic pill to make it go away. The good news is that those who do stick it out, usually have a wonderful life afterwards.

    I hope you'll consider checking in for support as you get down into the lower stages. There probably will come a time when it gets pretty tough.

    Also, so you know where we're coming from. We're a group that hopes to help people get free of opiate addiction - that's it. It's fair to say most of us regret ever having let ourselves get so addicted to methadone. I understand what you say that the clinic offers little or no support for detoxing. The sort of methadone-speak you may hear from it's advocates is not spoken here.

    Good luck to you both
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    pdiddy, its doubtful that buspar would help during the withdrawal period. Its a serotonergic agent, and its effects tend to be very mild. Ulikely that it would touch the anxiety associated with methadone detox. Also, the word on buspar is that its most effective when used in tandem with an SSRI. During detox your body is overproducing the neurotransmitter noradrenaline/norepinephrine. This is responsible for things like executive functioning, motivation etc. The excess of it basically feels like bad anxiety. This is one of the reasons why Clonidine/Catapres is so effective. Trust me, he'll get way more mileage out of the clonidine, it'll help him to sleep and relax. It's also cheap and doctors tend to not mind prescribing it. If he has legitimate psych conditions, those can be diagnosed after 4-6mos clean. Then perhaps buspirone or another psych med would be indicated.

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    Thank you so very much for the replies. He and I just want him to get through this as quickly and painlessly as possible--ha,ha. Does anyone know about detoxing more than one milligram every other day? That is the rate he is doing now. Could he possibly go to one milligram a day. Or MAYBE take a one time jump of 5 mg... I realize that the symptoms and whatnot vary from patient to patient. I'm just looking for real people's experiences with detoxing. I am also looking at maybe a 30 day program for him once he gets down to 30 mg. The closest center to our location won't take patients at a higher dose than 30.

    Thank you once again.

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    quote:Originally posted by pdiddy

    Thank you so very much for the replies. He and I just want him to get through this as quickly and painlessly as possible--ha,ha. Does anyone know about detoxing more than one milligram every other day? That is the rate he is doing now. Could he possibly go to one milligram a day. Or MAYBE take a one time jump of 5 mg... I realize that the symptoms and whatnot vary from patient to patient. I'm just looking for real people's experiences with detoxing. I am also looking at maybe a 30 day program for him once he gets down to 30 mg. The closest center to our location won't take patients at a higher dose than 30.
    Thank you once again.
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    Is he looking to go on Sub or into a detox at the 30mg. mark?

    How long has he been on Methadone to date?

    At his current 50mg, he can probably detox @5mg per week and still be fairly okay @30 when he transistions to either Sub or inpatient to finish the deal.

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    I'm leaning more towards putting him into a detox at 30mg. He wants off of the methadone, and I think the medically supervised program and the counseling could be very beneficial. He has been on Methadone since January.
    I did read on here the if we choose to go the Sub route, that the lowest effective dose for the shortest time possible is the best way. Is that correct?

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    quote:Originally posted by pdiddy

    I'm leaning more towards putting him into a detox at 30mg. He wants off of the methadone, and I think the medically supervised program and the counseling could be very beneficial. He has been on Methadone since January.
    I did read on here the if we choose to go the Sub route, that the lowest effective dose for the shortest time possible is the best way. Is that correct?
    Yes...that is correct...less is more..on and off...fast.

    My personal feeling is that if he has the opportunity to go inpatient detox @30mg and get off...he should do it instead of making the switch to Sub. He'll then...at some point...have to get off of that.

    However, please be aware that detoxes...while medically structured...rarely offer any counseling or tools. Maybe a couple of groups here and there...but detoxes aren't set up for the recovery portion. They're simply about detoxification.

    Don't get me wrong...I'm a huge fan of inpatient detoxes when it comes to getting clean. Couldn't have done it myself without one. No doubt there.

    Just don't want you to think that they're something they're not.

    He's got an advantage. He's only been on since January. Big advantage.

    Question...is he on the same page with you regarding getting clean?



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