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Discussion in 'Detoxing From Buprenorphine/Subutex/Suboxone' started by pcman, Mar 2, 2004.

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  1. pcman

    pcman Guest

    Hello all,

    I am glad to have found this board. I am about to come off a high dose of oxy's and am going to give bupe a try. I only have the .2 sublingal temgesic and not a lot of it. I have an interesting question I hope someone can answer. Will ultram work with bupe? Its interesting properties make it an unknown for me. Higher doses of ultram has helped somewhat with the aches that come with the withdrawals. I thought another possibility would be to use the bupe for 3-4 days and than switch to ultram, but will the ultram work with the buph in my body? Has anybody taken ultram with bupe before?

    Thanks everyone!
     
  2. Wren

    Wren Well-Known Member

    Hi, There are a lot of people here on this board who I have learned a lot from. It will help you. Please do not use Ultram!! It is much more addicting than the oxys. It was the one drug which blew most pharmacists trust in FDA and pharmaceutical companies out the window. was marketed as non-addicting. it was obvious within 2 months of it's introduction to pharmacists that it was a REAL problem. try adding on imodium to help with symptoms and advil(ibuprofen) It would be helpful if you could get just a small amount of some kind of benzo such as valium. But only use it for a couple weeks- no more!!! For the 0.2 temgesics to work at peak amount, put them under your tongue and keep there to dissolve slowly - as long as possible. I am assuming from your post that you were taking the oxys orally- if so, wait over 18 hours((Please someone else comment on these hours???)))) or more if at all possible before using the bupe. If you do not have so many, use only for worst w/d -wren
     
  3. ashley80

    ashley80 Well-Known Member

    Since bupe can be used to detox from ultram, I am guessing that it will block the ultram. But I am no expert, just a guess. And Wren is right, ultram is very addicting.
    As for how long to wait before taking the bupe initially, wait till you are in mild WD, however long that is for you. I waited 14 hours after a short acting opiate, and that was OK for me. May be longer for you. Good luck.
     
  4. Zloi

    Zloi Well-Known Member

    Suggest going to an MD authorized to dispense Sub, if that is an option.
    http://www.buprenorphine.samhsa.gov./bwns_locator/index.html

    Your dosage of Temgesic is 10 times smaller than the smallest Sub tab (2mg). Ultram isn't likely to do much if you're habituated to high doses of oxycodone over a long time period.

    PS: Benzos are highly contraindicated with buprenorphine
     
  5. Jessie

    Jessie Well-Known Member

    PCman...I too came off a high dose of Oxy's....You need to wait 48 hrs for long acting opiates and 24 hrs for short acting ones....Thing is, YOU REALLY need to be kickin' in some active withdraw - not crawling on the floor and dying.;).But pretty miserable..Or you will get extremely illlll....But after you take the Sub, you will feel much better in about 30min....

    Don't take the Ultram...Sorry, am with everyone else on that (I've been there, done that one also..LOL)...It's very addictive....
    I'm with trying a mild Benzo. for just those few days to help cope with the withdrawl...

    Best wishes to you...You'll be fine....Just gotta suffer a lil bit of discomfort until you can take the Suboxone-then you're on your way to a new life!!! Keep us posted
     
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