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Incognito detox

Discussion in 'Detoxing From Buprenorphine/Subutex/Suboxone' started by movnon, Feb 3, 2004.

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  1. SlipMan

    SlipMan Well-Known Member

    Man you kids are on edge here latelyQ[:0]. Sleepless, your post was insightful, accurate, and not at all pushy. I think that we need to remeber that the depression really does not kick in till the detox from Sub begins. I was prescribed Wellbutrin and it really helped to boost my mood but I found it to make me speedy so I switched to Zoloft. I have since discontinued the Zoloft basically because I feel I don't need it anymore. I'm one month of Sub right now and feeling pretty good now. Again, I want to reiterate that detoxing from the sub is no picnic but it pales in comparison to going cold turkey from other pills. As always, do what your body and mind tell you is best.
     
  2. Kaerjo

    Kaerjo Active Member

    This seems like the perfect opportunity to get back on the topic and write my first post here. I've been lurking here for several weeks... and I'll do an introductory post separately when I'm up for typing my "story", but for now I wanted to add one more to the others on this thread who are detoxing on their own using the tiny Temgesic brand of buprenorphine. My poison is pain pills, mostly codeine for over 10 years, but I've been known to get Norco over the web as well -- I never took to it as much as codeine though. But again, my story on another thread.

    The .02 mg tabs have worked so well for me (42 year old female), and many others that I know of, that I was also somewhat surprised at the high dose of U.S. prescribed bup. After reading here, I understand much better regarding the blocking function and it makes perfect sense. Having had knee surgery recently, I picked a strange time to do this, while I've still got some pain and still have two more months of physical therapy ahead of me, but there never seems to ever be a GOOD time! There's always something and I'm sure any of us could come up with a ready excuse if we wanted to. :) The way I see it, I'm going through a long recovery for my knee, and I may as well do this while I'm working so hard already on my leg. In a way, working on both issues gives me a break when I'm tired of focusing so hard on one of them -- I can focus on the other. Make any sense? Who knows! [:I]

    At any rate... I started with two .02 Temgesic tabs twice a day, and I'm down to one twice a day after a few days and it's working wonderfully. I feel comfortable, not like the warmth of codeine, but calm and my head is clear. It's incredible to me that I'm not *longing* for that feeling. That to me is the amazing thing about Bup... that you are completely aware that you don't have the warmth, rush, whatever you want to call it, but are not missing it. And I wonder if one day I'll be able to feel this way without anything at all in my system. God, I hope so.

    Anyway, just wanted to chime in here. The bup is an amazing medication. I've been reading about it for a number of years, before it was approved here for addiction purposes, and can now see why so many people are impressed with it.

    I've also heard that it's much easier to jump off on such a low dosage... I will taper it, but these things are so tiny that I think after you get to half a tab, there will be no other way than to reduce the frequency.

    Very impressed with this board, and the integrity of the people here... so glad I found you guys... I don't feel so alone here.

    Kae
     
  3. Crystal

    Crystal Well-Known Member

    Hey Kae,
    Welcome and GLAD you posted.
    It's nice to have a board, where alllll is Welcome.
    Sometimes we dont' see eye to eye, but we always remember why we are ALL here and that's ADDICTION.
    Bonds go beyond the call of duty and that's what makes a board a HOME if you ask me.
    Hope to hear more from you.
    Take care,
    Crystal

    Communicate,Validate and Appreciate!
     
  4. Jessie

    Jessie Well-Known Member

    I'll not comment on what was said...Just dropping off a cyber hug for Sleep [^]...and one for CGDG as well, for doing what he does best, making some sense (hee hee j/k) and bringing a smile...[:eek:)] (maybe ya shoulda brought the sweet n' low ;))
     
  5. sleepless

    sleepless Well-Known Member

    Hi Jessie :) Thanks for the Hug girlfreind, I needed it today :) ..Things have gotten a lil tense, but I'm hoping everything is squared away now...How are you, and how are you doin girl?

    Hi Kaerjo, welcome to the forum :) ..Thanks so much for chiming in here, it was greatly aprreciated to say the lest ;) ..Girl it looks like you've got things under control for yourself, that's GREAT and a nice change of pace for us all...I'm sorry to read of your knee (leg) injury :(, is it something that will heal over time and physical therapy or will it be trouble from now on.?..Gosh I hope not, it seems like there are SO many people in the world now a days suffering from one form of chronic pain or the other...It makes me wonder often times WHY exactly things are the way they are with medical technology being what it is today...It seems like someone some where could invent some kind of miracle drug that would kill the pain in our bodies without it becoming habit forming over a period of time...I guess all we can do is wait, hope & pray for the day to come that this will be a reality...Please feel free to *chime* in at anytime, I'll be looking forward to reading your post :)

    Take Care & God Bless :)
     
  6. movnon

    movnon Member

    Hey all, been off bup. since Friday been ok most of the weekend (was very busy) and this morning I feel a bit depressed. I have more temgesic coming and if I had it now it sure would help. But I think about how good it feels to be off hydro. and I slap myself back to normal..I'll keep pushing. Had a great nights sleep last night so I should have plenty of energy today..feeling ok.
     
  7. ashley80

    ashley80 Well-Known Member

    Movnon, that's great! So you don't have any real WD symptoms? The bupe is amazing, isn't it. I have been off bupe for 5 days, and still don't feel "normal" whatever that is, but I don't feel sick, either. I am so glad you made it through, on your own. Do you plan to stay off all narcotic pain meds now? That's my plan, at least for today, lol!!
    Thanks for sharing your experience, and let us know how you are doing.
    Ashley
    :)
     
  8. movnon

    movnon Member

    Not sure Ashley...I know I'll need them but I sure don't think I want to go thru this mess again. bup is amazing I think I still have a few more weeks to go to say i'm done and i have some more bup coming in. I may use it if i feel like it but won't know until i get it. If I get it today, i'm using...see ya.
     
  9. Rohan

    Rohan Well-Known Member

    Welcome Kaerjo! I think your approach to your detox is a great one! I think you will do just fine. This is a great place to come for support, information and to share information...or just to talk or vent or whatever! Hope you stick around and keep posting on your progress!
    Movnon, so glad to hear that you are doing well, no bupe since Friday! Do you think it's even worth it go back on now? I guess we all gotta do what works for us, but you have made it so far already! Whatever you do, I think that this will be behind you real soon. Stay strong!
    Lastly, I can't help but say that IMO obtaining medication from a licenced doctor is quite critical in detox. Specifically for these reasons; we get support and advice (i.e. a "type" of council) from our doctors. You know, a game plan of sorts. Also, we are regulated with our dose etc. I think we all know how hard it can be to stick to a taper if we are the one in control of the meds. I know that I have needed the support and restriction my doctor(s) provide me. As far as antidepressants go, I think that they are wonderful,tools. They can save lives. But I also think that this is an issue for a doctor to address. Our opinions DO matter, but in the end it should be the decision of a patient and doctor.
     
  10. movnon

    movnon Member

    Ok I thought i'd put in an update, I have been of hyrdo. for two weeks and bup. for 1 week. I did however get sick and got prescibed ultram so not totally clean, but i feel great, not sure what will happen when i stop taking ultram but now I feel great. Also, i got more temgesics if i need them.

    Hope all is well w/everyone.

    later
     
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