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burprenex vs suboxone, subutex

Discussion in 'Detoxing From Buprenorphine/Subutex/Suboxone' started by kathyrand, Mar 2, 2004.

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  1. kathyrand

    kathyrand Guest

    http://www.crazymeds.org/buprenex.html

    Go to link above. I could not figure out why I feel so good after my first dose of burenex (injectable). I think if I am reading this link correctly I now know why.
    Today (day 5)I am playing the game of "finding normal". The meds made me feel great. I am juggling between doses and times.
    I am taking care of myself with no one knowing. That makes this a lot harder. Doctors only want me to stick to the schedule he gave me, but..
    Thoughts anyone?
    Kathyrand
     
  2. ashley80

    ashley80 Well-Known Member

    Hi, Kathy. I went to that link, and was a little disturbed that this person said buprenex doesn't cause physical dependence. HellOOO! Read the posts here and see how hard it has been for people to get off the bupe after being on it for more than a month or two. Yikes!
    I am sorry you are having this problem with it!! Maybe it is because you are using the injectable pure bupe, like the link implies. Are you going to tell your doc about this? The last thing any of us needs is another abusable drug in our lives, right?
    Also, another curious thing about the link's info. It says that the naloxone in suboxone can cause depression. However, the naloxone is not absorbed sublingually, which is the normal way to take subox, so how could it have any effect at all? You just 'spit' it out after your subox dissolves. I dunno? Someday they will figure all of this out, long after we guinea pigs are out of the picture.
     
  3. kathyrand

    kathyrand Active Member

    Ashely,

    I find it funny they use one addictable drug to get rid of another. Why bother???
    I guess that is the million dollar question. How I look at it is I have to pass this drug test in two weeks in order to get into medical school. If thisis what I had to do to pass it,well be it...
    I have cut way back and God Willing when the cravings for Norco is gone I will stop everything, forever.
    HOw are you doing??
    Kathyrand
     
  4. ashley80

    ashley80 Well-Known Member

    Kathy, I am fine. I have been off all opiates for about a month now, and my life is slowly returning to normal. The bupe will probably not show up on your drug screen, unless they test for it specifically, which is unlikely. Even if it did, since it is legitmately rx'd by a doc, could they actually keep you out of med school because of it? I don't think so, but do understand your not wanting to reveal it. Anyhoo, I don't think it will show up.
    How soon will you be off the bupe?
    As for rx'ing one addictive drug to get off another, well I think the theory is that most people don't get high from bupe, and that it is easier to taper off than H, hydro, oxy and meth. Of course it's not perfect science at this point, but some of the info in the link posted above was just plain false. You sound like you're doing fine!
     
  5. Crystal

    Crystal Well-Known Member

    You gotta forgive me with my memory(for those I may have already asked this question too) BUT, my question is: IF you spit the sub. out after it disolves...HOW does it BLOCK opiates, such as Hydros ect?

    I don't get it~!

    Communicate,Validate and Appreciate!
     
  6. Kaerjo

    Kaerjo Active Member

    Crystal, bupe (sub) is not digested by swallowing, but is absorbed through the mouth tissues while dissolving under the tongue -- which is why it does you no good to pop bupe pills.

    It blocks other opiates by "taking over" the opiate receptors after absorption and not allowing any other opiates to bind to them.

    Hope this helps.


    ~Kae~
     
  7. Crystal

    Crystal Well-Known Member

    Thanks Kae~


    Communicate,Validate and Appreciate!
     
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