Thread: Found Myself back in a place I never knew existed.

Hi, this is the first time I have ever posted anything on a page like this, but I figured maybe it would help...

I am a long time heroin addict, about 2 years ago, when I lost my father and got my inheritance, I began to relapse again.... Previous to that I had been clean for 4 years. From my memory it was great and I so badly want to be back for good.

After my dabbling lead me back into a full blown habit, I went and got prescribed suboxone, I want to be done with all of it. Unfortunately I keep going back and forth, blowing thru large amounts of money and really pissed at myself. How could I let this happen AGAIN? The more I dwell on how much money i've wasted the more depressed I get with this whole deal. I really am done and want my life back and have the meds to do it. The problem is this...everytime I think it's time to start the suboxone (film), I get thrown into withdrawl and then here I go to get some dope to take the edge off and not feel horrible, so that I can work and get thru the day. The circle is wearing me out!

I am going to take the sub film tomorrow and pray that I can make it without getting thown into withdrawl. I am off work so I can lay and rest and get on the right track. The other delima is that I don't want to be on the subs for a long peroid of time, but I have to be able to work and function as a normal part of society and can't be sick. I have detoxed from methadone before but it was a very slow process and I wasn't juggling work and a double habit.

So I need a little guidance on how to detox with the sub film pretty quickly and still be able to get up and work and do the things I have to do daily. I have read alot about the suboxone and how it works but have not made it off of them without going back to the heroin. So, should I start with 2 8mg films for the first 2 or so days, and then 1 3/4 for a couple of days and so on.... How long should you take the subs without having to do a long drawn out detox from them as well?

Any advice would be very welcomed! I am so longing to be "normal" again and I can't financially keep going. I have done all I can handle. I know I can do it, I am ready and I want it. Pray for me and I am open for any advice.

You shouldn't need that much to start with - you want to start out on the lowest possible dose. It depends on how much dope you're using, but 16 mgs is way, way high. Start with half of an 8 mg film, (4 mgs), see how you feel an hour later, and if you really need more, take another 2 mgs. Then wait another hour, and so forth. Figure out what the lowest dose you can take and deal with it is, then start from there. As far as tapering, take it down by about 25% every few days. You aren't going to feel stellar, but the sub can at least take the edge off enough so you can do what you need to do.

Also: you have to be in moderate WD when you start the sub, or it will make things worse. Go by the COWS scale:

http://www.heroin-detox.com/faqs-inf...ows-scale.html

And if you really, truly cannot get off of H with sub or by any other means (sounds like you've been around the block with the sht), think seriously about trying ibogaine.

Peace.

EDIT: I read your other thread, and it really sounds like you are taking the sub too soon! Doing that will put you into precipitated withdrawal, which as you already know is no fun at all. You need to wait longer!

Hey there, I know how hard it is, having such a desire to quit, but feeling crippled by the wd's, and needing to still function on some level. I pray we find the strength we need to get thru this asap.
Regarding the sub, dont forget its the weird one, as in LESS IS MORE with it, really important to remember that, its way more effective at a much lower dose than your suggesting, it works different to the other opiates where u need more and more to achieve the same effect.