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    Default Ok I have got my daughter, she is going into w/d,

    Hi,

    I am sure it's all over the place here, and I am sure I have read it.. but in my current situation I can't find any of the threads I need.
    What can we do get help with her w/d from H now?

    I don't want to get a lot of other help like subs and such.. what natural things can we do right now for her for the next week?
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    I've heard good things from other folks in withdrawal about black cumin seed oil (N. Stativa) in helping withdrawal pains and cravings post detox. I also find blue lotus extract helpful durring detox and rhodiola rosea to be great for the weeks after acute withdrawal is over.

    Do a google search on these herbs for more info.

    Hope that helps good luck!

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    hi krish. hot baths are really helpful. heating pads. have her drink lots of water. bananas if she can get them down, for the potassium which will help her legs. there is also a product called hylands for legs cramps that some people recommend. immodium is helpful, but is a minor opiate, so at least be aware that although it is REALLY REALLY HELPFUL it is also a little bit addictive and you should hold onto it yourself. but as far as using it when she has bathroom problems... that is totally fine and will definitely help.

    if i think of anything else i will definitely post!!! good luck krish. we'll all be praying for you and her.

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    Thank you both! I wasn't even able to scan thru threads about this and comprehend anything.

    Here is what we go so far:
    Vit D
    Mulit Vit
    SamE
    Stool Softener ( she's having bad constipation
    Heating Pad
    Bio Freeze
    Back pads, for arthritis
    Melatone for sleep.
    Epsom salt for the hot baths

    We go water/gadorade
    Oh and socks, underware, toothpaste, toothbruch, etc..
    So 180.00 we are home... but still cheaper than the other options we have done

    She is going to AA tomorrow, to meet with some woman who can give her/us more information on where to put her for rehab or something..

    I jokingly said after your AA meeting, we will shovel the drive way together, get your blood going. She said oh no my back hurts.. I can't shovel. Jokingly I said, well I give you a percocet then.. she said oh yea.. I will shovel then and can I have one now for my back pain? I just started laughing...I remindered her we are doing this naturally...perocets won't get you where you want to be. We laughted at her "addictive mindset" now. Actually we laughted a lot today..

    So I am going to look up your suggestions and see if I can get them tomorrow!
    THANKS
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    during opiate detox....there is no way she will be constipated. Constipation is from opiate usage (which is why Immodium has an opiate in it).

    Immodium has an active ingredient called Loperamide...it is an opiate that does not cross blood/brain barrier and therefore will not get her 'high'. It can help gastro and other symptoms. it did help me somewhat.

    i don't know what her habit is...but when I kicked heroin...i was very very sick for about 5 days...and didn't sleep for about 2 weeks. HOT baths are a godsend.

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    Well she says she is and has been very constipated and super bad hemroids, that make her not want to go at all, so we thought the stool softener would "soften" the blow.. We did Immodium as well.

    It so happens she works tomorrow for a few hours only, and then she thinks she is off for a few days. She does plan to go to work tomorrow. Her hands look like sh*t! Needle marks, bruses..I am surprised no one has said anything to her.

    I bagged up all the vitamins for 5 days. I can't think of having her physically in our home much longer than that and hope rehab is in her future. BUT, we promised her, we will take it day by day and get her detoxed, step 1 in the process, so don't keep asking about where you will be living in 2 weeks.

    I was told at the place I took her to today.. heroin does not need a medical detox, so they would not take her... the lady, who is in my husbands fellowship, had me drive all the way down there in a snow storm, to tell us they can't help us. So I was like...* this.. You can come home and detox..It's a vicious cycle, she has insurance, so there for all the beds are full in the state places. ..and we are not opening our wallets again for gamble we lost too many times for. This system needs to be changed.. desperately.. I have no idea why I was told to take her there for help, when the door was basically shut on me/her.
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    you said in the above post that she has insurance...so detox/rehab should not be a problem. what am i missing?

    It's true...heroin detox is not life threatening. first place I ever went (hazelden) gave me nothing for detox. it was CT and it was brutal. this was 20 years ago...most places offer something to soften the blow for a few days...even if its just clonidine.

    good luck krish.

    if you misspoke and she does not have insurance...then follow anne's directions below. When I am trying to get a woman into detox/rehab, they call several times a day. The state-run places here don't want to talk to anyone but the addict themselves...i can't make the calls for them. your state may be different.

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    Krish, get every single number for every single state run place. Find out if there is also a hospital that has a detox floor, there is one here.

    If she is not working and she has no insurance (I realize you do) then she will be able to get in and the state will pick up the bill.

    You have to keep calling these places as people come and go there, be very persistent. AND they will want to speak with her.

    You are very lucky to have her like this. You got all the right stuff, but the real battle when she goes into full swing detox, well you might need some help.

    The other thing is you can put her into detox now. I mean now. and then when she gets out, have called all places for 5 days, every day, a bed may have opened that will take her.

    You can also try recovery houses, where they live with other women in recovery. Here there are both private and state run ones. IN either one, they are mandated to work, to return home after work and to pay their own way. thing is she will need a strict one, as she is not yet ready for "free" time.

    So be peaceful inside yourself through this, respond and do not react. Let her lash out, if she does, and do not partake in it, remember she will be in a super aggravated mode.

    Keep us posted. God bless you sweet mama, and pray for that daughter of yours. God I wish Glynn could get her daughter away from that SIL and get her to be where yours is. Just take care love. Post whatever you need, but sounds as if you got yourself covered.
    I will look to see if there were any other comfort meds I had written down.
    Love you much,
    hang on hon!
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    Hon just sent you on a document loaded with detox ideas etc. Please look at it for your daughter.
    Thank God.
    Love annie [xo]

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    Thanks Anne
    I have comfort knowing I can always count on you! Thanks my dear!

    The insurance is weird to say the least. She is currently considered intigent. So she would qualify for state places.. but their beds are full.

    If we wanted to activate our insurance for her, because we did not add her on as of Jan 1, 2010, we would have to add her. My husband sold his stock last week, so we do not have the good "partners" insurance and have like a 5K deductible.. so if we take her to a "private" and use our insurance, we have pay them 5k upfront..which we don't have.. we meet our ded slowly, a med here or there, an appointment here or there... and by law,,,she wasn't living with us, she was intigent. So it's hard to explain and we are in weird insurance spot right now.

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    Jymi- Some of that stuff looks really interesting. I am gonna call Whole Foods tomorrow and see if they carry any of it.. I am afraid if we order it, it will take some time, unless I want to pay up the wazoo for over night shipping..
    Thanks!
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    Kelly, Good luck with all you are doing. I have been following your threads regarding your lovely daughter and admire the strength you have displayed throughout. I absolutely relate to all that you are going through and want to tell you that I wish I had the courage that you have. You and your daughter will be in my prayers.

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