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    Default 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    Ive been clean for 2 weeks solid and loving it. The only problem I have is I injured my back playing soccer years before I was an addict and never went to get it checked out while in the meantime messing it up even more cuz I would just self medicate and no more pain. I need to go to the doctor and have it examined but I am worried that if he gave me vidodin (which I have no desire to get high on) not knowing my history they wouldnt do anything because of my tolerence. And also on the other hand I dont wanna be eating a bunch of pills everyday. I dont know if I should tell the doctor that I have an opiate tolerence or wat? I need something. Im in constant pain literally 24/7 except when Im sleeping and even then im sure it hurts. I kno he'll recommend PT and im all for that but again if hes like take 3 vics a day and go to PT on tuesday and thursday those vics arnt gonna do **** for my pain. I also work in a warehouse setting lifting and loading and cant not work. Theres no choice there. any advice?

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    Default Re: 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    Go to the doc and ask for non-opiate type pain relief....and an examination.
    CONGRATS on the 2 weeks!!
    You can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking that caused them in the first place.

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    Default Re: 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    are the non-opiate pills strong enough to deal with extreme back pain?

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    Default Re: 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    Pills are just one option. As a chronic pain patient I can tell you 600-800mg of Motrin is a far better option then 440mg of Oxys and another 100mg of misc 'breakthru' meds.
    A TENS unit helps at times. Warm baths help as well

    Not saying it's a pain free possibility...on the physical end. On the recovery side it beats ALL opiate options.
    I've explored multiple options...still evaluating several others. Spent years coming to realize the opiates fix nothing.....but can destroy everything.

    Find the sits with your pain and address it then.

    At two weeks clean, most likely you're experiencing some level of rebound pain also.

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    Default Re: 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    ive had back pain before Ive just been using so I thought I was doing something about the pain but being off the opiates now my back is killin me. Im not saying your wrong about the rebound pain but I know and can feel its more than that
    So should I tell the doc or just go along with the "new patient" mentality. I feel like if I tell him about my past its gonna black list me from getting anything for my pain. I tried the motrin and my tolerence kills it.

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    Default Re: 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    What I hear your saying...You want to leave the doors open to go back on dope. ALways a choice.

    I will share the further away I got from opiates the less pain I had.
    omission is not honesty, only a different way of lying.

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    Default Re: 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    im going to the doc tomorrow to get x-rays and everything and if something really is wrong wat am I gonna tell him? nah ill stick with all the motrin and tylonol...that **** ****s my stomach up so bad. I knew this was gonna be the case that I was gonna get treated like an addict and it sucks. I have no desire to get high and no one believes me cuz who is gonna believe an ex-addict right? its ******...Im through my physical withdrawls and my mind is right. I have a great support system I attend meetings 3 times a week like Im not trying to **** this up all over again especially goin to a doc when I could just go get some H if i really wanted to. BUT I DONT! I just hate living in pain....the sleepless nights, not being able to lay any way to put some relief on my back. Goin to work is even worse and having to put more and more strain and pain on my back because Im not trying to eat a bunch of OTC meds that wont work for me. i dont know wat to do everyone thinks im schemeing to get high. MY pain is opiate addiction pain I kno the difference...not being able to get out of bed in the morning after 2 weeks of being clean i dont think is opiate pains. Like i literally have to sit up in phases. I cant just jump right up.

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    Default Re: 2 weeks clean :) Important Question

    How did you get on?

    The fact you came on here to ask what people think you should do tells me you dont trust yourself!!

    I knew someone who had damaged her back, like a crushed disc or something. She had access to codeine-based meds when she needed it and morphine too although they amount to the same thing, just vary in strength. She had never been an addict!!

    Anyway she chose to manage her pain, and so only used pain relief if she couldnt stand it anymore. I dont think she ever touched the morphine tabs. Maybe once or twice a year! But it was her choice to manage the pain herself and keep meds to a minimum. I think she figured that the more you take, the higher your tolerance and so the less effective meds are when you DO want relief.

    I think you were asking what's the chances after 2 weeks clean you could use opiate-based meds to manage pain long term? Deep down you knew the answer. No amount of justifications or mitigation can make you look like a perfect candidate for opiate-based pain management. You only have to look at the threads from people who got hooked on subs etc after accidents or traumas who didnt use illicit drugs to know it can happen to anyone. Let alone someone who's cerebral cortex has what we might call a "soft spot" for opiates already.

    As for tolerance, that goes down very quickly. If you still feel that you have a high tolerance for opiates then you should not even think of taking them until you reached your baseline default setting!! I remember having two syndol for a migraine not knowing they were codeine based and ended up on the couch nodding off and scratching all night like i'd done heroin. But I had been clean a while by then.

    I think the message is clear, if you're serious about staying clean and maintaining abstinence then you will only ever attempt to manage pain with opiate meds after exhausting ALL other options AND having at least 12 months clean time, if not 2 years! Prob not what you wanna hear, but I'd agree with all the other posters.

    All the best HF
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