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    Kramer-
    Thanks for sharing that. I have never tried heroin, for the simple reason that I knew I'd love it. I caused more than enough damage with OC's, and know for a fact that I would've chased H all the way to my grave. That is an absolute fact, and I'm grateful I at least had enough clarity to know. The smartass doctor at the detox I spent Christmas in in 2002, told me as I was being discharged: "If you are gonna relapse, you might as well do it on heroin and save yourself some money.
    What a phuckhead. Maybe reverse psychology....

    "It takes what it takes"

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    Hey No Excuses, no need to lurk and not post. With a little understanding, communication and listening - we worked through what had us on edge. I think all of us struggle to keep emotions in check - that's the nature of the beast.

    I really think your experience getting clean and staying that way will add value to everyone, me included!

    Casper

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    And besides, IMO, this is the best damn thread on the board right now, and YOU started it.
    I rest my case....

    "It takes what it takes"

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    Hey Mic,
    What an **** doctor that was!He should've been proud of you for making the effort to get clean.Man,I'm glad that you never tried the Heroin.I know that Oxy is no joke either.I've been withdrawing from both,but I have withdrawn from just Oxy.Don't let anyone tell you any different man.The Oxy withdrawal is just as bad.My hat's off to ya.It's no easy thing to do.

    Casper,
    Man,I wish I could put things into words as well as you do.You have quite a way of getting your point across,and in a good way.

    O.k. guy's,I'm going to eat and I'll check back later on.Hope you all have a great day!

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    this thread I started has been a surprise to me. I didnt think people would contribute. We are all so unique, drug addiction is a complicated part of our lives, I know Ive upset people - I know that my views are not generally liked. Please believe me when I say that I do feel for everyone here, I was a drug addict for a large part of my life. I feel pissed off about that when I see young people taking advantage of situations I ignored. When you are young you dont think about the consequences of what you do. Drugs, why not. The only problem is that drugs are so powerfull they dislodge logic normally part of everyones character. They make us feel and do what we "feel" we ought to. I have been hard nosed because I really care and I wanted to annoy and disrupt people. You can call me over about that - one member here has sent me an email telling me what she thought of me in no uncertain terms - good for her. Sorry to say I think she missed the point of my contributing here. anyway, Im here just looking into a world I lived in for so long. Its still upsetting to me to think of all the people I once knew. Some dead and most forgotten - exept by me.

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    For newbie forum users, the very definition of the first post in this thread is called 'trolling'. A bannable offense at most any forum... and yes, trolls mask behind the facade of an "opinion".

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    Not quite sure why you found it necessary to do an end-around?
    Hm, is your intent to "inform" the newcomer, or perhaps insult someone whose views you may not share?

    "It takes what it takes"

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    I think this is a good time to lock this thread.

    Kramer, I was following your progress. I hope you are still doing well. I want to suggest that you start your own thread to keep us updated on your recovery.
    Once you start your thread, I will move your posts from this thread into it for you.

    You are in the midst of one of the hardest things you will probably ever have to do in your life.
    I hate to see your story hidden away in someone elses thread. Writing about your detox and recovery experiences could very well help someone else who is facing the same issues.
    Also as many of us do.....It's helpful to come back every now and then to read what you have written to see how far you've come.

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    Okay unlocked!
    I received some emails regarding this. Guess I should explain the method behind my madness.....

    I followed this thread with great interest. I could literally watch people growing and changing with each post. That, my friends, is what this is all about.

    However, the last post was off topic and way after the fact. I read where Mic jumped in to head off the tension, but was afraid it would escalate.
    I saw possible trouble brewing. I didnt want this thread to be hijacked and ruined so I chose to lock it to avoid that.

    Sorry about the misunderstandings folks. After the tempers flying around here the past 2 weeks, I am a bit jumpy.

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    Oh,this is too cool!Thanks for unlocking this one Spring,it was becoming a great discussion! :)

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    good to see the thread has started up again, good because we all can open up a bit - me included. Ill write again later...

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    Glad to see you back Noexcuses. Also glad to see this thread re-opened too. I thought things were going well once we could all vent. Just because everyone doesn't always share the same opinions, doesn't mean we can't learn from each other.


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