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    hartforddanielle Guest

    Default Suboxone is making me sick? HELP PLEASE

    Hi there I don't know if I'm doing this right but, I was prescribed suboxone about two weeks ago after being an opiate addict for 3 years and an iv user for over a year. I've been in and out of detox's inpatient treatment which was great but I left to soon. I live in Montana and it is very hard to get help for opiate addiction,(far and few between) I waited a long time to get on the suboxone program and my doctor is over 350 miles away.A using partner of mine from the past that is now clean had given me a 8mg tablet a couple of months a go after withdrawing for about 4-5 days it made me feel great not high but back to what it felt like to be sober that wasn't painful. After that I continued to use then withdrawed cold turkey for over a week then was finally put on suboxone. Now I 've been on it almost two weeks and it makes me sick, I actually vomit somedays are better than others, the doctor's office says that i'm probably just taking to much and to often but just other day I tried to get through a 4mg got sick and then didn't take another one for over 24 hours. Have you heard of anything similiar, and if you have did it subside[?]I go to see my dr. on the 7th and I'm afraid he'll take me off of it but I can surely show him all of the pills I haven't used I know that no one trusts me anymore and especially a dr. that deals with addicts all the time that. It seems that i've waited for so long and besides the bouts of nausea I feel farely good alot better than the feeling of constant withdrawel, sweating, cravings, the dreams and all of my criminal mind that goes along with all of that. I just DO NOT want to use again, I want my life back, Iam only 23. Can someone anyone reply. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

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    Welcome, Dani!

    Well, I don't know.... Vomiting was always a sign to me that I was taking too much suboxone. How much is too much? Hard to say... But it's a very potent drug, and you often don't need as much as you think you do.

    But you say you felt WD when you took less, so I'm not sure.

    Just be very honest with your doctor, and try to take as little suboxone as you can to prevent getting sick. It has a very long half life, so normally you don't feel a reduction in dose for a couple of days.

    I'm glad you found this doctor, and getting your life back. Congratulations, it sounds like you have come a long way!!!

    What is your current daily dose of sub?

    Ashley

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    Welcome Dani. Everyone seems to have different experiences with the sub, I'm sure many will jump in. I think I had a diff reaction than most maybe so don't take my word as the only experience!! I was taking sub for both getting of Stadol and also for pain relief replacement. Sub didn't feel good, didn't get rid of pain, and did make me feel sick. Doctor dared to tell me I was taking too LITTLE and wanted me to double from 4-8mg. I told him forget it, no way. So now I have NO nauseau and I can't tell you for sure if it's because I'm not on sub, or because I'm 15 days out from taking my last Stadol. Soon other people with more experience with this will be along to offer advice.
    It was just too coincidental, I just had to answer you because were here talking about your doctors not trusting you, and I just wanted to say you're not alone in that either. I just this second got off the phone with my neurologist's office telling them I needed something for my headache I couldn't stand the pain anymore, and my regular doctor wasn't in and her back-up was reading me my chart to me where it says "prescribe no narcotics." How sad to have this written in your chart. And even sadder, I was only asking for a triptan (traditional migraine stuff) and before I could get it out of my mouth they said they couldn't prescribe me any narcotics. Sure put me in my place! Kind of feel ick about it too, I knew my neuro and I were working together to get me off of narcotics, so I'm not sure how to take this phrase.
    So back to you, there are some nausea medications that I take to help counteract some of this, as a lot of meds make me sick these days. Not sure if these are an option for you.
    Sorry if this was a little rambly/disjuncted.
    Good luck [B)]

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    Hi Dani . . .Ash.

    Have you used any other opiates since you've been on the suboxone? If not, it may just be that your body needs to adjust and get used to taking the medication. Lots of people get sick from the drug initially. . . give your body some time to adjust. tell your doctor the truth when you see him next . . . he will/should not take you off of them, so i wouldn't worry about that. 350 miles??? wow, thats rough . . do you see him on a weekly basis??????

    Hang in there . . . take as little sub as possible to prevent withdrawal. you're doin great!!

    Tom

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    Hi allgood - i heard the same thing from on my doctors, that my body was getting used to the sub initially. (The other thing being that I wasn't taking enough which I can't wrap my mind around) Would you consider (in your experience) that 5 days is long enough to get used to it? Just curious, maybe I didn't give it enough time. Didn't mean to break in on Dani's thread but perhaps could benefit from the answer too.....

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    Hi JSB.

    I'm speaking from a general standpoint when i say what i have said in this thread. For me, I had no problem adjusting to the medication. Everyone is different . . and i have heard of numerous incidents where people have got sick from the transition from their DOC to suboxone. How long did you take the sub jsb? Good job telling him to forget it on the dose increase . . . doctors have no idea the power of this drug. My doctor has me on a prescription of 32 mg's day! Can you believe that?? I take 8-12, depending on the day. Sub has been a huge relief for me. Dani, although you get sick from the medication . . .did you say it is effective in relieving the withdrawal symptoms?

    jsb . . are you currently taking anything for pain??

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    Hey allgood,
    I took the sub for 5 days only. Was the longest 5 days of my life. I've been off the DOC for 15 days, also taking forever to pass. And now I am not taking anything for pain consistently or that has had any effect, we are going through a trial and error period of trying really so far quite useless meds, such as Soma, fioricet, maxalt... I can't bring myself to put the sub back in my mouth again. Even though the sub doc keeps teasing me and saying "what if you feel pain relief for the first time in a long time, will the effects be worth it to you?". Yeah maybe but the fear of the unknown is too much. For now. May be singing a tune after another month of this. Maybe another month will be the key to less pain, more time passing getting narcotics out of the system, allowing the body to heal some. Or maybe I'll be desperate beyond any past feelings of desperation (at least then I could get the stuff that works. Not gonna happen this time.)

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    Dani,
    So glad you're here! I'm new like you. Stick close to this board! Keep up the good work even though it's painful. Try to stay off your Drug Of Choice. If you mix opiates and Sub., that would probably make you sicker. I know it's tough but hang in there. Let us know how you are doing.
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    Hi Dani, welcome to the forum...

    Sorry to hear that you are having problems with the Sub. I was on Sub for 2 1/2 mo's. Ohh and the first tab took every ounce of me not to vomit.LOL..I was very nauseus from being in withdraw to begin with, then that awful tasting orange pill. My dr. prescribed me Metoclopramide (Reglan) for the nausea, after a few days on the medication, it really helped. Not sure if that's the answer for you, but something to consider.
    It could be the combination of the med's you are on, no way to tell..I guess it would be best to discuss this with your dr again. I would hate to see you stop taking the Sub, you said it is helping, right???

    Congratulations on NOT giving up on getting clean, you should feel very proud of yourself![^] I'm sure that there will be more people coming to post some different ideas for ya'.. Feel better soon and please keep us updated..

    A big hello & welcome to you too Curtis, it's great to have you here as well..:)

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    To all I want to thank you so much for all your helpful information and your words of encouragement. Lately I 've had a hard time I've been swimming in my pool of self pity and feeling very alone. The truth for not only me and I 'm sure alot of others is that my 1st drug of choice is opiates and the second has been men. I 've currently been single for a month now and that is I think the longest I've ever been single, It makes me sick to think of being alone and why is that? I 've had to get rid of my "best friends" pills, dope,and my needle so I have no more crutches there and no man to fall on all I have is myself and that's all we really have except maybe our families but in the end it's us, So I have to ask myself Why am I so afraid of my own company and to be alone, probably because of my self destructive behavior. I need to believe that I 'll make it and that I'll make new friends and be a great hairdresser once again. I'm just feeling very hopeless. I was forced to move back in with my parents in my hometown where eveyone knows who I am and where quite literally my graduating class was 43, we live 12 miles out of my small town and I can not drive their cars and had my dream car repossed 8-9 monthes ago, so I don't know how i'll even get to a job, my parents were going to help me to buy a car and then at the last minute my mom bailed, she doesn't trust me understanably so and I so far can't find a company to insure me because I 've had two drug induced wrecks that weren't pretty, I don't think my insurance company at the time knew I was under the influence they just thought I had "mental" problems and those were the reasons behind my wrecks. I just feel so lost and the only person who I can talk to is my mom but she walks away and says she doesn't understand or she's drinking. Which I'm not judging her at all but if you are trying to stay clean it is very hard to communicate with an alcoholic parent who seems to be so angry all the time, the thing I 'm also having a hard time with is that how do I say sorry for everytthing I 've done, it just isn't enough and my family says yea, Dani we've all heard that before. But I feel like a totally different person since being on suboxone like I really can make it and that I have a chance but how do I make it when no one else will give me a chance? I 'm sorry I 'm rumbling. Anyway thanks to all for the help and this awesome website!!! DANI

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    Dani, I think that time will be the answer to your family problems. When they see how well you are doing, in time they will open up and learn to trust you again.

    In the meantime, maybe you can draw your strength from wanting so badly to prove that you are truly changing your life around..You know in your heart how badly you want to be clean and I truly believe that in time, your family will see the changes and begin to be more supportive.

    Meantime, keep up the great work and keep posting. We're all here to support one another, so you can count on us to be there for you when you feel like you're all alone.

    Also, dont think that you are "rambling". It's good to get all those feelings out. :) That's what this place is for my friend...
    Take Care & try not to stress tooo much about the family situation, I'm sure as you continue to conquer your addiction, you're family's faith in you will return.

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    Thank you Jessie for not letting me feel all alone, I know that I'm not all alone and that everyting could be worse I need to be so thankful to be alive. It feels so good to converse with you all you all ROCK!!:D

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