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    tubalkain is offline Senior Member
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    This was posted on http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/p...ost?id=1757075 :

    The clinic over the border is run by William Hitt. He claims that he is a doctor who has won the Nobel Peace Prize and a multitude of other awards and honors.

    I am a lawyer who represented various of his victims and personally investigated him.
    First, he is not a doctor. He has never even graduated from an accredited college. He was sued by the State of Texas in 1987 for practicing medicine without a license and for prescribing unsafe treatments. He admitted then that he was not a doctor and did not have a degree.

    I also called the various colleges where he claimed to have obtained degrees and they have no record of him. I also contacted the organization with which he claimed to have gotten the Nobel Prize and they said that he has never been a member.
    Since it is an organization of physicians, that would make sense.

    He also claims to have won the Eli Lilly award for discovering a type of mycoplasm. However, I spoke with Eli Lilly and there is no Eli Lilly award. In fact, Hitt has never even received a grant.

    After promising not to practice medicine any more, he left the U.S., went to Mexico, and, gee, started practicing medicine. I represented clients who went to him because he claimed he could cure Hep C.
    His "treatment" is urine injections (ick), hyper doses of vitamins and amino acids (I was very active in litigation involving amino acids that killed several people and made thousands ill), and ozone therapy. My clients did not get better, although Hitt said they were cured.
    When they returned, their viral loads were worse than when they started treatment. I discovered that Hitt had falsified the lab results to "prove" that he had cured them. Results faxed directly from the lab demonstrated that Hitt's treatment had done nothing good.

    One of my clients had a heart attack while receiving treatment, but Hitt did not diagnose it and just told my client that he was having a minor adverse reaction and there was nothing to worry about!

    Hitt now is touting Neurotransmitter treatment of some kind, but it is the same old thing - urine, vitamins, amino acids. He claims that this treatment can cure Hep C, AIDS, MS, alcoholism and substance abuse, and obesity, among other things.

    He takes mucus from one's nose and based on that "designs" a vitamin and amino acid mix that is supposedly custom blend.
    However, since he has no medical or scientific training, even if mucus could tell you anything (like one's viral load), he would not be the one to see it.

    Finally, if you have money, you will not be cured, but will be a difficult case that requires multiple treatments. To be fair, there are many people who claim magnificent results. It is my opinion that this is mind over matter, but even if Hitt has a great treatment, wouldn't you rather have a real doctor (and someone who doesn't lie about it) treat you in case there is a bad reaction or you do have a heart attack?

    Even though Hitt cannot practice medicine in the U.S., he is now working with various individuals, none of whom are doctors, to run various substance abuse centers around the country.
    You go in, give a mucus sample, which is supposedly sent to Hitt, and he then sends back the customized vitamin/amino acid recipe, and nurses or physician-assistants provide the IV of goop.

    Again, I'd rather have a real doctor. Vitamins can kill you in large doses and amino acids are not regulated. So I would stay away from that clinic over the border.

    Oh, there was a program in 2001 on NPR about the William Hitt Clinic that showed that it had unlabeled bottles of "medicine," vats of mucus, and other problems and the place was closed down.

    I know for a fact that Hitt bribes the police down there and, no surprise, it was re-opened a while later. So, in short, this guy lies about his qualifications and experience, he falsifies laboratory results, he treats and supposedly cures everything, he was closed down

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    Hi,
    excellent detective work tub.That a moon rock expert,nobel laureate,gloop expert,renaissance man and sealyham terrier breeder should have an impostor in mexico using his name and wreaking havoc i find truely unjustifable....well no great surprises there then.Things dont tend to get to randi without just cause.Wonder what Mr Sanders has to say about the NTR inventor.

    On another matter gloop mucus or whatever does actually have diagnostic uses but not i am sure in the Hitt manner.

    Again,well sought out

    M'camera

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    Hi,
    such a cynic.Given overheads,cost of the aminos,brides to la policia etc i guess he's clearing maybe 10$ per patient,just enought o keep the sealyhams in food and a little fuel in the camaro.If it is quite so easy to fleece the american populace i'll head over and cook up a few therapies.

    Do you sleep Tub? ?poker? Just like me <4hr night and slight mania

    Cheers
    M'camera

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    Boy that's a reliable source. Come on Tuba find me one piece of supporting documents to this bloggers post.

    mike

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    Hi,
    tend to side with the illustrious Mr Tubalkain.Accepting the vagaries of the net where exactly is Dr Hitt's counter lobbyists.Evidiently unapparent. PhDs necessitate a thesis bound and deposited with uni libraries and also specified central libraries.These dont get lost.As per the listener nz being able to spell ones qualifications also helps...my quackometer is ticking over.

    As i suggested the net often has article sof questionable credibility and provenance.Mr Sanders demands "supporting documents" regrettably,so far no work proferred by either Mr Sanders,Execucare or Dr Hitt come anywhere near minimal evidential level.They are at best opinion.The piece of work proferred for the CAADE meeting is clearly a step in the right direction but is methodologically flawed as;

    1)Methodology unclear likewise validated inventories
    2)Retrospective-hence cherry picked
    3)Endpoints primary and secondary unclear
    4)N= 40 = way to small esp for predicted power calculations
    5)Statistical methods unclear( what was used ie stat wise and programmewise.
    6)Unclear what it was ie abstract/poster etc
    7)Unreferenced
    etc
    I could really take it appart but i dont suspect that would alter anything.Unfortunately the NTR therapy ticks all the boxes for quack therapy these are;

    1)Amazing claims,no validated stats or references and plenty of testimonials.

    2)Dubiety of method and clinicians.

    3)Usually involve energy or toxins or someother concept.

    4)Usu. fall back on pseudoscienc eto try to explain things ie they can't

    5)Amazing cure rate

    6)Victor Khyam adoptees ie the therapy was so good i bought the company

    etc

    Sue you all get the gist.I am open to new concepts.As far as aminos,receptors go please offer me the smallest piece of info to confirm the process.This has been singularly lacking.I find it staggering 15000 punters have been treated and the best that is on offer is a retrospective n=40 something that frankly would not be put on public display at any proper meeting.So if you choose to make wonderful claims about tyour therapy be able to provide accompanying evidence not testimonials.It merely reinforces the apparent quack nature of treatments offered.I trust Tubalkain,you are happy with that.

    Cheers
    M'camera

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    Hi,
    please consider the following.Lets the path i have chosen to this point has lead me a merry dance round moonrocks,pedigree hounds,Oslo...all this and an academic background that lead me to the insight that lets say attaching the chemicals of addiciton ie cocaine,opiates to a large molecule that survives in the body say a clycerol or glycol derivative would allow the body to in effect to be rid of addicition.All hypothetical.I am confident of my hypotheses and methods what and this is the golden question would i do with this method? Here are my options 1)Seek investment re product development gievn that there is a clear association between basic scienc e and clinical effect,patenting,trialling and peer-review publishing then subsequent marketing and licensing in multiple markets.People would be employed to answer profesional or consumer research questions.All is above board.All is transparent..My second option 2) is to have no evidence that my hypothesis works.Despite this the hypothesis is explained in diffuse terms that are unsupported,other than by testiminoial and non-verifiable.When simple questions about methodology are aked there is no response.Wild claims re efficacy are made along with cure.There is no peer-review.If the method is taken up the licensees seem to be in a s much dark as the inventor.I could go on.Think it is time for the NTR peddlers to try and answer a few questions as their inherent inability to do so is becoming rather lamentable.Surely when asked re methods they should be able to answer that one without much thought.That is they have some ides as to what is going on.

    Sadly the EU is filling up with quacks and these ones are not on annual migration.The latest one is the self-styled president of the Royal College of Alt. Medicine in Dublin,Ireland.His qualifications are home made...you can guess the rest...indignant,over-valued self-belief,mad therapies...interesting to call your self "royal" you need a warrant..doesn't have one.Funny this was the same route of respectability that the illustrious Dr Tamea Sisco used to enhance the credibility of the worst piece of research i have ever seen as to be found on the Execucarearc.com website.Oh for some common sense.On that front it is in the post all i need do is await Tubalkains or some other sensible seasoned posters entry.

    I despair for this golden age of vaudevillian charlatanism.

    Cheers

    M'camera

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