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    [8D] I thought I would go out on a limb while I was in a positive mood and start a thread with links to sites on mental strength and other up lifting stuff.
    Believe or not there have been times in my life when I have had to over come the impossible and I found that my mind could be my worst enemy, ie if u are doing a 20k run, as soon as you start thinking its all over I cant make then u WILL fail.
    But if u can dig deep, close your mind to pain then u will surprise yourself with what is possible.
    I know it might sound weird comming from me, someone who has f**ked up on numerous occaisions, but like I said in my past I have achieved things I never thought possible and now Im trying to regain the menatl attitude that I used to have,I just GOT TO TRY HARDER.
    I think and always have done that comming off drugs is say 50% mental so if I can learn to beat that part then Im alsmost home free.

    http://www.gurusoftware.com/GuruNet/...s/Strength.htm
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    Thanks for that Rik!At the beginning of my detox I was concentrating on taking my medication n avoiding H...its Day 10 n that's not enough anymore!

    I don't know if you understand but through the first week on Sub I was so proud of myself etc etc but when I hit a week it was like the novelty wore off!Yep-I hadn't had any gear,woohoo but what else had changed?Life straight was beginning to get to me,I wanted to a nice warm euphoric hit!

    You're right-I have to change!I know going back to gear won't make me happy,my life would just continue spiralling downwards out of control but life without?I don't seem to get on with 'straight' people,I'm not into drinking n they seem so...trivial?Or am I being a snob?

    I've gotta decide what makes ME happy!I've always been weak-too nice!When I was scoring I was always being ripped off-I couldn't bear to see people rattle n I always wanted to give people the benefit of the doubt.As a result they took me for a ride (at one point people were looking out for me-they knew they didn'thave to rob me,they just had to give a sob story n I'd crumble)

    I haven't read both your links but the first one got me thinking so much I had to reply.I need inner strength!I don't wanna turn into a git,just...hmm I'll think about it!

    And Rik-stop beating yourself up for your situation!I know you've suceeded before n maybe you're ****in up a bit now but aren't we all?;)[}:)]I believe for example that someone who has had an addiction n beaten it is SOOOOO much stronger than someone who never had an addiction n a better person for it!

    Did your ex come back? How's things? Are you going to stay with yor bro? Have you noticed we've got our own thread-maybe post reply in that so I don't ruin this thread?

    Summers on the way :)
    LOL Loop

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    I could Not agree with rik more. a strong mental postive additude helps. I also agree with that your mind can be your worst enimie or your best friend. When you are detoxing and get like 5-6 days in, the mental aspect REALLY KICKS In, so much it is like having the devil on one shoulder and the angel on the other , battling out the war. And mental strength really helps to battle the devil and make him go away...
    Stay Strong!!
    Sheri

    If at first you do not seceed, try and try again.

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    never mind the detox. wait till you have to be out there on your own with nothing. years after the detox. when the jones comes back. or something happens in your life and you don't know how to handle it other than shooting dope. THAT'S really where mental attitude is needed. it's really where you are tested. i am failing this test these days.

    best of luck to you guys.

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    I positively believe in the power of positive thinking. Our minds are more powerful than many people know.

    A strong will is a great thing to have but it can go either way. It can keep a person stuck where they're at or it can help give them the strength to keep moving forward. Think about it...how on earth could a junkie keep his habit going for so many years without a strong will to obtain that drug day after day? And how could a 20 year junkie get clean without a strong will to refuse to give in to that impulse to use?

    It's not always about what makes us happy whether we stay clean or not. Not in the beginning anyway. It's about ignoring our self centered will and becoming humble enough to listen to someone else who just may know more than we do. That person for me was someone who had the same drug history as mine with one difference, she had been clean for 10 years.

    That strong will is what kept me selfishly ruining my life as well as everyone else's around me while I did what made "me" happy. It didn't work for me until I learned it was more about doing what had to be done...just because.
    In the beginning I didnt even really know what made me happy. I hadnt been among the living for awhile. Things change all around us while we stay the same. Sad way to live...

    ~~~Do the right thing and risk the consequences~~~Spring~~~


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    I agree with you analysis Spring. I see now, which i did not before i statred to detox, that the mental stuff is what we have to fight forever. I can not wait to start therapy to learn how to deal with things. I was wrong about alot of stuff i felt maybe just a month ago. I am now willing to accept that i can NOT get threw this alone, and may need help and support for years to come.

    If at first you do not seceed, try and try again.

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    Hi All, I owe a HUGE apology to Spring, i know before i started to detox, that i felt i could do it, NO HELP, no nothing. Well,I am clean, day 12. But have realized i need outside support and help.
    I really do find it hard sometimes to admit i was wrong , especially when i felt so strongly about MENTAL POSTIVE ADDITUDE, yes it does help, but it is NOT the total answer either.

    For the last 12 days, even thougth i have had people around, it has NOT helped in the manner i need help. I can not wait to start therapy tomorrow.
    Sheri

    If at first you do not seceed, try and try again.

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    Sheri, I think you will find the therapy helpful. I know it has helped me. Good luck, and hang in there.
    Ash

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    I went to therepy yesterday for the first time, and i loved it. The women who is the therepist was so down to earth and not bussiness like, or over powering.

    She was warm, sweet, down to earth, understanding, did not pull any punches, she told me what she wanted to no matter if it hurt or not, and i need that.

    the office was bright and cheery, and i felt really right like i fit in. It was nothiing like my shrink's office that is poorly lit, dark, he wears suits, she was casually dressed. I loved it.

    I can not wait to go back on Friday.
    As far as na goes, i am still going, but after reading my other post "COLD TURKEY" many people wrote, that i could possibley be asked not to partake, or maybe even to leave. Call me out, and other things, that have made me petrifed to go.
    If anyone wants to know what they exactly said, go to the bup board and read my topic "COLD TURKEY" i think it was that post, or possbily my other post under the bup posts.

    I will be so embarresed if i get asked to not partake , or to leave. And if i am called out, I do not know what i would do but bust out in tears. One person said to go to a "Speaker Only" meeting for the first few times.
    I do not even know what that means.
    I am not far beyond scared of going, i am petrified like i said. But i am still planning on going.
    I want to give na a honest shot with a open mind and heart, and willingness to learn and grow. But i can not lie, if i am asked a question. that is not who i am.
    Well, that is all. thanks Ash i am hangin.
    How are you doing Ash with your detox? fill me in, on how you feel and everything.

    If at first you do not seceed, try and try again.

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    Hang on, Sheri. I went to several NA meetings while still using my favorite hydros, and some when I was still on subox. I was just honest and said I wasn't clean yet, but still struggling and wanted to be clean. NOBODY said anything to me that was in any way negative. I just got lots of hugs.

    You don't have to BE clean. You have to want to be clean. And you can't bring any drugs to the meetin' of course. I'm gonna read your other thread now.

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    Greeneyez-
    I didn't see this before I posted on the other board. The NA experience referred to earlier is very, very, very rare. I attend 5 meetings/ week and have for many years, and I've only experienced something close to that ONCE. Please remember what I said earlier,"The only requirement for membership is a DESIRE to stop using/drinking (AA). PERIOD. YOU are a member when you say you are. I'm not meaning to discount the uncomfortableness, but again, I'll bet you everything will go great! And, try a number of different meetings. Try AA also. Bounce around until you find one/some that you like. I promise that it will happen. I'm dying to know how it goes, so let me know O.K.?

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    thanks Ash, and Mic. I am going and i do have the desire. No doubt about that.
    I am going to walk in there with my head held hi... Thanks Guys your words of encourangment mean the world to me..Stay strong, Sheri

    If at first you do not seceed, try and try again.

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