Has anyone talked to a lawyer about this. The Dr's prescribing it incorrectly are committing malpractice and the compny should be open for class-action.The poulation of addicts is is filled with shame (in my opinion rightfully so-this was weak)butin my recent case I went from legitamite pain to dependency to insane dependency,depression nd anxiety because of misinformation. Somone shoul be held accountable. This might make a good sticky I will talk to a lawyer on Monday.

Hi, Someone is already looking into that exact thing.. I was going to post more about what the lawyer say's when ifind out more..
I already know that there is case, and class action as well..The case would be made againest the makers of bup/sub and also the fda..
Anyway, let me know what your attorney say's, and i will fill you in on what i know..
I feel that the company or someone should pay for all the people that want to go to a detox center.. My close friend is the one talking to the lawyer, she has been on bupe for a year and is having some really hard times, and she was told mis-truths , and mis-leading information as well..

Look forward to hearing from you..
Sheri

"You may lose a battle, but you can win the war"

Let me know if a class action case is started. Had I kept my e-mails to the clinic and their replies I would have a case against them... Unfortunately a hard disk failure wiped that out. SO How do I prove what was told to me, and my voiced concerns.

To anyone-

What kind of issues are people on "bupe" having? Is there long term side effects that are dangerous? I've been on "Bupe" for two months now and I do have some pretty nasty side effects. Every morning I wake up and feel pain all over my body. The sweating is intense at times but I do believe this is from the amt I'm on. I have tapered down some and will do more next week. The drowisness is a problem especially driving. Are the issues over the long-term side effects? And what constitutes long -term? Is there web site I can look at that talks about these particular cases? Greeneyez, what kind of mis-leading info. did your friend get? Concerned. Squishi

Squishi-
You can check out the Suboxone website, and/or start your own thread seeking input about side-effects.
Are you still at 24 mgs.? If so, I'd say too much Sub is definetly part of your problem. Mic

"It takes what it takes"

I really doubt that the amount of Bupe has much to do with the sweating. More so, I think it's a matter of your body needing to adjust to the Bupe. Originally, I was on 1 ampule of Bupe SL (sublingually) 4 x daily, which is not all that much. But I used to sweat like crazy from it. Now though, I'm injecting .5cc 2 x daily, which is in effect, a much higher dose. But I rarely ever sweat anymore, even when I was at .5cc 3 x daily, probably because my body is used to it.

Also, back in the beginning, I too, remember waking up with pain all over. Again, now that my body has adjusted, I usually don't feel any pain unless it's been "longer than normal" between doses. Until a few weeks ago, I was taking .5cc of Bupe IM (intramuscularly) 3 x daily. But then, my doctor cut out the middle dose. For at least one week, when I began going "too long" without the injection my body was expecting, I began experiencing pain. It was like my entire body was in a vice that was slowly tightening!! I always tried going as long as possible, before dosing again, but never could stand it for very long.

As for drowsiness, Bupe tends to perk me up! I only experience drowsiness as a withdrawal symptom when either tapering or jumping off Bupe completely. Sometimes, taking Bupe at bedtime helps me to fall asleep. But I'm convinced it's because my body is beginning to "withdraw" and is causing me "discomfort." The Bupe simply makes me comfortable again so that I can sleep.

I too, am very interested in any "class action" law suit. I don't really fault the doctors who have supplied me with Bupe. They were simply misinformed by the drug manufacturer, just like the rest of us.


Sandman

Squishi, have you heard from Jackie2? I am real concerned about her!! Please let me know if she is alright! Bup4pain has some real good info on the original use for buprenorphine...both types iv and sl...not sure where it is but you'll find it...he was talking with loner i am ....i think! Sub makes me sweat, it must be the bup in it?

Peace and Truth
BettyBup

ps....i have chronic back pain
i have acute headaches
chronic is ongoing//longterm
acute is sudden attack and short term
i also have acute dimple in my left cheek!

Peace and Truth
BettyBup

BettyBup,

I responded to a thread in which she was asking some questions yesterday and I responded to a email but I haven't checked my mail this a.m. yet to see if she responded.

Micimo & Sandman: Thanks for the input. I know that I'm on a high mg but maybe there is the adjustment thing going on. Anyway, just a short thank-you. I'm in a rush, traveling an hour to visit with sponsor this a.m. Chat with you all when I return. Keep on trudging....Squishi

Bup4Pain, I am sure you can prove that you were on bupe, and get copies fo your records to show you were on Bupe for as long as you were, and with MANY people involved and even detox centers helping with saying how many people they have treated with bupernex addiction, it will be easy to prove the company or makers did not dis-close the correct information..The attorney said that he will interview many people and others, and it seems to feel we have a GREAT CASE for the makers of bupe, to the FDA for approving the drug wihtout knowing all the effects..Fact is bupe is MORE addictive then other types of opioids, and fact is it is NOT easier to get off bupe then other opdiods.. I have a website, that even states that they used bup injectable for DETOX, besdies pain..John is you are interested, send me a e-mail.. So i can give all the names to attorney when i go with my friend..

Anyway, I will let you know, and you can decided from there. IF you would like to discuss this further feel free to e-mail me, as some things i did NOT feel i should post..I agreee with you it is NOT the Dr's it is the makers, and the FDA..

Sandman--Please send me a e-mail, with your e-mail address and I will put your name in a file that i am keeping for anyone that wants to be involved in this case..

Sheri

"You may lose a battle, but you can win the war"

to greeneyez and everyone else on this thread, i am also interested in any potental class action against the makers and the FDA. i have never been one to look to the courts for resolution, and i am in favor of some of the tort reform being talked about by the politicians, but the FDA lately has just looked the other way while the pharmacutical companies have bankrolled studies for them in prusuit of the new wonder drugs and new patients to improve thier bototm line. as a markting student in college, i got a glimpse at some of thier marketing practices and was shocked by them.

also, have any of you checked suboxone.com over the last year??? i noticed a few months ago that all of the info about the "3 periods" ie. induction, stabilization, and maintenance has disapeared, i have a feeling this is because they now know that maiantance is not a good idea due to the highly addictive nature of bupe. the old info is still out there on a few old news sites, and ive have seen a few that now replace maintance with detoxification in which a taper is spoken of, but not on the offical site. i would also like to see what exactly their 8 hour qualification course consits of and how much of the content was supplied by the manufacter.

anyone who watches tv knows the drug companies now have a supposed soluion to every porblem imaginable, marketed in a feel good way...thank god the fda makes them list the side effects which more often than not sound more unpleasent then the orginal problem. the way that i have seen these stocks talked about on finacilal shows on tv is also disturbing, talk of patents running out and that they need to come up with something new to boost the bottom line and urging people sell right before a generic comes to market.

i was poking around a few weeks ago and found this by accident,

http://www.businessweek.com/print/bw...8.htm?chan=db&

im sure theres much more on this out there but it just gives you a glimpse into the minds of big business and the pharm. companies when it comes to peoples health over the almighty dollar.

kaz

Kaz, I will definaltly let you know when i have more details.. Meeting with attorney this coming friday..
I know you would like to be included.. So, i will keep you posted as to what;s going on when this meeting is over.
Sheri

"You may lose a battle, but you can win the war"

This whole issue has me wanting to get off Sub...like now!
Then maybe I'd want to be a party in the suit? Depending on the severity of the withdrawl.
Oh well, guess I oughta do what seems right. Whatever that is?
Mic

"It takes what it takes"

Kaz,
You bring up an interesting point. My doctor had just told me that the patent 10 yr. period was up and they were coming out with a Generic form of Oxycontin.......much cheaper. Could this be a coincidence with the Suboxen push?
I mean I was at church last week and met 5 more people on sub. This stuff is spreading like wildfire around here. The doctors in the area have been flooded with patients to the extent on my last visit two weeks ago he had revised all his forms and i had to sign several release forms NOT holding him accountable .....I thought it was strange, but just wanted to get my rx and get home. One of the forms emphasized he would no longer be doing urine specs and checking/referring ones to NA or Psychiatrist.....etc... The gist of it was "you know what you are getting and why and I am not responsible for any of your problems". I wonder how the generic oxy sales are going. The two times I tried to get them, the pharmacists said they had requested them but they had not received any.

Peace and Truth
BettyBup

you know greeneyez, i just may be interested in that suit,,only because maybe they would pay for me to go to the luxury spa in Florida...ha! I guess that would compensate....? Maybe they would pay for childcare here back at home too.....just dreaming!

Peace and Truth
BettyBup