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Hey guys I'm on day five of detoxing from about 180-240 mgs of roxicodone (oxy) a day and to be honest I'm not feeling as good as I thought I would beat this point...still have the chills and had a real hard time sleeping last night...
Anyways I'm prescribed Xanax for anxiety and I have been using that to help with the withdrawals along with alcohol of course...but I was wondering if anyone knew whether the fact that I'm taking Xanax is prolonging the process considering it is a pill and does need to be detoxified via the liver and I've heard a rumor that it does kind of delay the process.
Does anyone know for a fact either way and if so how much does it delay the process because by tomorrow I was expecting to feel almost as good as new.
Anyways I'm prescribed Xanax for anxiety and I have been using that to help with the withdrawals along with alcohol of course....
hello and welcome to ODR. If Im reading this correctly, you are using xanax and alcohol to migitate the WD's from opiates? If this is correct, please do not continue to do this. Mixing xanax and alcohol can very easily cause OD (whitney houston) Besides, xanax brings about its own set of WD symptoms if you use it for a few weeks, even if you do sparingly. Unfortunately there is a lot of rebound anxiety from benzos (xanax, valium, etc) when you stop them and they should never be stopped abruptly as doing so can also cause severe medical issues from the drop in seritonin. My advice is to ride out the WD from the opiates, it wont last nearly as long as the WD you will get from benzos - and wont be as severe as benzo WD symptoms too.
Can you tell us a bit more about yourself? Is this your first time detoxing?
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Sure and thanks for the response, I'm 23 and have used painkillers recreationally for a few years in college nothing to crazy maybe one 30 mg on the weekend if that. But then due to relationship issues with my current girlfriend I got extremely depressed, like constant thoughts of emotionally traumatic things and i began seeing a physciatrist. They labeled me clinically depressed and were urging me to hop on SSRI's and I was fairly ignorant about antidepressants like those so I started self medicating with Roxy's (30 mg oxycodone) and this was my senior year at Undergrad about a year and a half ago and it has gotten progressively worse. I'm now in my first year of my doctorate in grad school and am actually on spring break which gave me the much needed opportunity to detox and get away because the stress of juggling my addiction with the load of work is physically and mentally breaking me down.
In response to your question if this is my first time trying, no but this is the first time I've done it the right way and got this far because I took myself away physically to a relatives apartment.
And the reason I asked was because I'm actually prescribed a small amount of Xanax for my anxiety which sometimes gets bad and I was only using it to sleep not to get high or anything like that. I am just worried cuz its day five now and my symptoms have definitely gotten better but I still have chills and the hot and cold sweats they're just not as intense, but I thought by day five I should be almost good as new. So I was wondering if it was the Xanax that is prolonging the symptoms of the opiate withdrawal , I'm done using the Xanax now either way I just wanted to know. Thanks
Your doctor did you much injustice scripting you with xanax. I tell ya... detox from roxy is a breeze compared to detoxing the xanax. If it were me I would stop them right NOW, unless you think your already addicted to them. I don't know why but opiate addicts seem to get addicted to them pretty fast.
So...if addicted I would began a slow a steady wean now before the detox last you three yrs.
How long and how often do you take them? At what dose?
Mixing them with etoh is a death wish. Happens to the most seasoned addict. All it takes is your liver taken a break for two hours which does happen and your a dead man.
Also.... to use for the wd of opiates is only prolonging the pain. When you do stop them you will have rebound anxiety.. rebound lack of sleep also. Not sure how long you have a break from school but if addicted it wont be long enough. Not trying to scare you but this is a fact.
Five days off roxy and your able to post, I say your doing great. In a few days you should feel much better. I would a excerise program now to help out producing the endorphines you will need.
What are the plans to protect you from picking up again once this is over? After 35 yrs of dope use and too many detoxes to even count..I can say without a doubt that the detox is the easiest part of addiction. Its staying clean that poses a challenge.
I would suggest you use Gaba for the anxiety.. warm milk at night to help you sleep. Melatonin works great but you do have to give your body time to heal from the opiate abuse.
Welcome to ODR and CONGRATS on your 5 days of success. No easy task. I can promise you that each detox gets harder and harder on your body and last longer and longer each time. At the end of my addiction my detoxes would last weeks...even from short actings like roxys. Your very lucky you have not moved on to the longer actings opiates like methadone or suboxone. They are a killer to stop and leaves us with more damage to heal from.
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the hot/cold sweats and chills are lingering effects...i'm on 17 days cold turkey from a concoction of opiates, and I still wake up in sweats, albeit not as bad as the first 14 days.
i would just say f it, cut everything out...i used to take xanex and lexapro, i cut that out...doctor said anxiety and depression could have been because of the drug intake...give you brain a chance to mellow out from everything.
Woah woah woah...guys relax I am not remotelyyyyyyy close to being addicted to Xanax. My doctor gives me one scrip a year of the weakest dose (.25) mg and I don't ever take them unless I have a panic attack which is a rarity.... So please calm down with the xanax addiction talk I barely take them ever I was just using them to help me sleep because i couldn't get a healthy amount of sleep these past few days while detoxing...feeling alot better now at the end of day five, I presume I'll feel really close to 100% tomorrow being six days....
But getting to what you said Xanax prolongs the hurt of opiate withdrawal that's what I was asking about...I'm not touching the Xanax anymore after hearing that from a friend too...I'm just gonnna wing it tonight n worse comes to worst I'll use some tylenol pm because I dont have melatonin sadly ...
How bad will it prolong the withdrawals though I'm just asking because I used it the first three nights , less than half a bar each time but it didn't push the withdrawals back a whole day right? Please just want an honest answer I promise im not touching the Xanax anymore...and thanks guys I know I'm pumped too almost six days now!!
Everybody is different and it will take as long as it takes to feel better. Don't set unrealistic expectations and realize that it is a process with some ups and downs. The only thing I know that will speed things up is a healthy diet and FORCING yourself to exercise immediately. Probably the last thing on your mind at this point, but exercise (including sex) is a huge help.
The main thing I get out of your first post is that there is a possibility that you may be heading down the road of substituting abusing opiates with abusing alcohol which is not a good mix with benzos, prescribed or not. This doesn't work for long and can lead back to the opiates quite easily. I am not sure which is worse.
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if not addicted to benzo... and stop them now so you don't began to depend on them for the sleepless nights we all have to go thru after we stop taking dope.... you should be ok.
The detox will take some time before you feel great again... we are each different. Freak is right that good food, excerise will speed up the process for you. Warm baths at night, melatonin, magnesium at night will help you get a better night sleep though wont be the 10 hrs your use to.
Cant say exactly how long.. depend on how long you doped, how often you put body thru detox and just your general health. But if your able to post then your on your way back. So you cant be suffering that bad. Just stick to it, drink lots of fluids, take multi vit and most important is excerise.dd
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Immodium helps EXTREMELY w the chills and sweats. Idk how u r using the alcohol, or how often or anything, but I once tried to use it to help detox from opiates. Thot, well, if I just get off the pills the alcohol isn't a problem. However, after some experimenting, I realized that the alcohol was making the detox WORSE, much worse!! I am now almost 5 months clean from opiates. I did it w immodium and melatonin, and a low dose anti depressant that I am prescribed. Just my experience, but I think alcohol will make u feel A LOT worse... Keep up the good work tho, and don't give up!!!
Hey guys...5 am because I woke up at about 3:30 and did everything in my power to try going back to sleep WITHOUT using xanax, sadly while the hot shower felt phenomenal the combination of that and warm milk I heated up didn't do it...idk tho I passed out at around 10 ish I believe possibly 10:30 11 so I did get some sleep granted not as much as I would've liked....it's very strange though I mean the first few days were obviously the worst physically peaking on the third day for me but I was able to sleep...although I was taking Xanax for the first time in months to force it so thats probably the cause...
anyways I don't feel ****ty or anything I have a little chill but nothing serious and I appreciate you emphasizing the Imodium because I actively dragged myself out of the apartment I'm staying at to get it and it's really helped so thanks for that....Also on the third day my sister and her husband dragged me to the gym somehow and I sucked it up and worked out and it definitely helps...so yesterday I sucked it up and went outside against my bodies will for a four mile walk outside in central park and I felt better after that as well
Feeling a lot better now I can pretty much start to breath again like this constant weight on my shoulders is going away and I gotta tell ya it's liberating....
DAY 6 technically....keep me in your prayers...god bless
You know you can kiss those 10hr sleeps good bye for a while. Not saying that it never happens but for me it NEVEr happens. I get 6hr every nite without a hitch and for me at my age that is all I need. When I go two days without sleep I might get 8hrs of sleelp. But I think sleeping from 11 to three am is great.... dont look a gift horse in the mouth.
Outlaw is so right... I cant beleive I didnt mention the immodium... another thing at night that will help you is magnesium. It will help with the restlessness you have in you limbs and for some will make tired.
I would take the 5 hr you had and be very happy. Becareful, I have to say for some reason thru the many detoxes I have been thru the thought of using never really came into mind.. I would always wait till all thy symptoms were over and I was back in life, feeling good then I would relapse. Support is a must... dosnt have to be AA but it is ready made for you and there for the taken. I needed so badly the social part of it my first yr since I was one that isoloted during active use. There is also SMART, I still depend on CBT daily. I am nearly three yrs clean and I have to protect myself from being around dope just as I did when first clean. I realize recently that I can never let my guard down. Having a person to call on when tempted saved my arse more the once.
Congrats on time... now go clean your sock drawl so your busy till the sun comes up....
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Heh thx bonita and yea I mean it's definitely better than no sleep at all...the only symptom I have left is the chills and obviously the sleep issue but yea I'm kind of getting irritated that the chills aren't gone yet it's literally been six days and I mean I know I didn't ween off, actually just the opposite I went almost OD dosage for me the night before i was going away to detox, but still day six and chills still I'm very frustrated....
Stayin strong tho of course....I'm never going through this sh*t again...I will not I refuse
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