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    Default How long does this last?

    I am on day 32 of being clean from any kind of Opiate. All of my severe symptoms of withdrawal have passed. However I still have> Anxiety, depression, lack of motivation, and no energy. When do these symptoms start to go away? is it a "every person is different" ordeal, or is there a general rule of thumb? It' not that my day isn't manageable. It's just that I thought these symptoms would be gone or lessened by now. Any info from someone who has been through this would help. Thanks
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    Default Re: How long does this last?

    it is an 'everybody is different' deal. depends on many factors....how much you were taking and for how long. what kinds of opiates you detoxed from (short vs. long-acting), general physical health going into detox, level of physical activity during/after detox, any other medications ongoing, or recently detoxed from.

    all these are mitigating factors to recovery.

    are you getting support? do you have any kind of recovery program?

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    Default Re: How long does this last?

    Sounds like you have PAWS (post-acute withdrawal symptoms) and additionally, the underlying issues that may have driven you to abuse opiates in the first place are resurfacing.

    Are you under a doctor's supervision? SSRIs are tremendously helpful with anxiety issues, although take it from someone who has been there, do NOT let them put you on Paxil. You think opiate withdrawal sucks, Paxil withdrawal is worse. I'm on Prozac now and it helps mitigate a lot of the depression and anxiety issues. Also, regular exercise helps my anxiety more than anything else.

    Good for you on getting 32 days clean!

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    Default Re: How long does this last?

    Depending on how much and how long, it can take awhile. Just take it day by day. Do you attend meetings for support or anything of the like?
    Don't be afraid of withdrawal. The sick feeling will pass and then the real work starts: staying sober. For me, the rooms of AA were the last thing I tried and the first thing that worked, but it will only work if you work it.

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    Congratulations on 32 days! I'm in my second month too. People generally call what you're describing as PAWS, or post acute withdrawal syndrome. You've probably been using opiates for years, right? Some homoeostatic changes in your body take time. You can think of it as a prolonged tail end of your WD's, that fluctuates with time as your body re-adjusts. There are also psychological factors to consider (try to think holistically about recovery). Removing the potent psychological "crutch" of our DOC can have confusing and mysterious effects on our sense of well-being. If helps to remember that some of the discomfort and apathy you're feeling is actually normal and you should be thankful for it! I'm not saying "be thankful for suffering", just that for us opiate users, we forget that It's feelings like boredom and anxiety that can drive us to get out there and do more with our life.

    You've said your symptoms haven't "gone or lessened", but I'll wager that you are actually seeing small improvements as time goes on. It's just they tend to fluctuate so it's hard to get an objective view.. That's one of the reasons people keep recovery diaries, so they can track their progress and see changes.

    I'm being a bit philosophical here but you could say - "When will I recover?" "When I am ready to"... If you can "have faith" in that answer, and maybe even see the humour in it - you'll be ok (for now ;))
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    Welcome to ODR....and a HUGE congrats on the recovery time.
    You may want to read some in here, and ask away.

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    Default Re: How long does this last?

    That was a really short post I wrote. I should have explained my self better. I definitely feel better on a daily basis. I've started back in the gym and am able to function at work now. There's no way I would have been able to go back to the gym last week!! So I do see improvement it's just been frustrating these last couple of days cause I thought I would be further out of the hole by now. I've done my homework on PAWS so I have a basic understanding of whats going on. I guess my biggest fear is the anxiety and lack of motivation. I've tried almost every SSRI and none of them have worked for me! My question should have been> "IS there an average time that anxiety, depression, and lack of motivation last before I should consult a DR."> I was going to try some SAM-E and 5-HTP first and if nothing clears up in a couple weeks then make an appointment with a Psych or DR. I really don't want to go on any antidepressant though!Also I do have a good support system. I have been going to a N.A. meeting everyday since I got out of Detox and have sober family and friends around me.
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    Default Re: How long does this last?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsouth620 View Post
    So I do see improvement it's just been frustrating these last couple of days cause I thought I would be further out of the hole by now.
    What was your expectation based on? Previous experience? Ask yourself, why are you placing these expectations on yourself.

    If you need help with depression, don't wait man, go now! Who cares if it's PAWS, or clinical depression. The important thing is you're getting help and being pro-active about it. If you're asking "how long should I wait before taking random psychotropic drugs from a psychiatrist?", the answer is - a f'king long time :)
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    Default Re: How long does this last?

    hey man, congrats on getting clean! Huge step.

    I am about 91 days in, and I can tell you that it keeps getting better. I don't know your background, but I used pills for several years, and my addiction to them progressed over time as my brain adapted. These adaptations were not immediate, but we tend to shrink the timeline of the past as we recall it from memory. In reality, it took me about 5 years to get to the point I did with what I was using.

    The body is incredibly regenerative, but it just takes some time. I talked to my psych and in some cases, depending on your abuse level, it can take a solid 6 months to feel 'normal', if we can even get back to there :p...that should not be discouraging, but rather motivating because of what we have to look forward to in the future.

    5-HTP is a good idea, I have heard mixed reviews about the success of Sam-E, but anything that works is great. Congrats again, and just keep on keeping on, it will continue to get better with time!
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