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    ChinaTiger is offline Junior Member
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    Default Why ppl shoot suboxone? Risks?

    Why do some people inject suboxone intravenously? It seems someone I care about is doing this. This person gets suboxone off the street. I'd like to know why someone would shoot it rather than just take the pill, and what are the risks of intravenous use.

    Thanks to anyone that can help and my respect to anyone reading this that is working to stay opiate free.

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    China, the risks are great. If shooting suboxone, they can precipitate wds from their doc. If they are using a mix of bupe & benzos, they can potentially die.

    Tell me more. Are they shooting suboxone or subutex?

    Why are they shooting it?

    Bette

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    quote:Originally posted by ChinaTiger

    Why do some people inject suboxone intravenously?
    Maybe because they're crazy?

    Just IMHO.

    China,
    I know you were probably looking for a more serious answer but thats the only one I know..........

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    quote:Originally posted by ChinaTiger

    Why do some people inject suboxone intravenously? It seems someone I care about is doing this. This person gets suboxone off the street. I'd like to know why someone would shoot it rather than just take the pill, and what are the risks of intravenous use.
    Thanks to anyone that can help and my respect to anyone reading this that is working to stay opiate free.
    Two things come to mind: Risks of IV: Hep C, HIV, (all blood-borne disease) arrest (unless you have a script)

    Secondly: Suboxone has naloxone added to it to guard AGAINST IV administration. Naloxone is an antagonist, and is activated when IV'd. Like someone said above, that leads to precipitated withdrawl.

    I'd say: 1) STOP IV. If the person will NOT stop IV, stop IV of Suboxone. Subutex has no naloxone.

    You are a good friend to do this for someone.

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    Suboxone & subutex have corn starch, fillers, & other ingredients that, if injected IV, can cause vein damage, clots, abcesses, etc...
    You are a good friend... but injecting either drug is going to be very dangerous!! Please try and get this person help!~~Hope

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    Why do they do it? Two reasons come to mind:

    (1) shooting provides a rush that SL administration does not.
    (2) economics: by shooting, you have to use less of it.

    Also, there is a question about whether the naloxone is an actual deterrent. There are anecdotal reports that it is not.

    Of course there are a ton of risks in IV'ing it, many of which have already been mentioned.

    -AK

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    Are you talking about IV or IM or both? I heard the naloxone really did not cause w/d's but would not want to chance it! That is ONLY if there are NO OTHER opiates in your system. I pass out when looking at needles, but I know that the naloxone does not cause w/d's via snorting it. I tried that once.....it was gross! I dont like stuff in my nose either! I can understand the part about wanting to use less and make your meds go futher but if you are still looking for a rush, you shouldn't be taking bup at all, IMO. ~~Hope

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    I absolutely agree; someone who is shooting suboxone is probably not really trying to get clean.

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    Are you sure they're not shooting SUBUTEX? Suboxone is made so it can't be injected, right? We only get Subutex over here in the UK. I wouldn't advice shooting either though, the fact that it doesn't have any more effect than taking it under the tongue is another reason why it is pointless to crank it. Yes, I've done it myself back in the day (a couple of yrs ago) and it's very dangerous, very!!! It is not meant to be injected (no matter how well crushed and mixed it is) and like I said, it's pointless, they're not gonna get a rush of it and they're risking more than they think...
    These pesky little tablets are hard enough to get off anyway, never mind jacking them up!

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    I had a very long talk with a guy who told me about shooting subonone. First of all, it was suboxone....not subutex. He said he could moniter the doses easier (starting with one cc) and do a slower taper. He has tried tapering the "regular way" before, felt horrible, and relapsed. Now he's been on suboxone a few months this time and is "testing" a taper using it IM. He says he can use less meds & mg's than when he was using them sublingually, therefore stretching his $ and meds. Obviously he is not trying to get a buzz...he said he couldn't?? and doesn't want too!!~ He says it's easier than breaking, crumbling, or shaving pills with a razor, to measure the amount he is slowing tapering down too, and he hasn't felt any w/d's at all. Personally I dont agree with using meds this way, I hope he doesn't hurt himself..... but I have to give him credit for trying to get clean.

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    quote:Originally posted by submaster1

    Get them on a high dose of Suboxone and they won't be craving to shoot nothing.

    SUBMASTER1
    More "wise words" from the "SUBMASTER" [}:)]

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    SUBMASTER...

    I can tell you now that subutex WILL give you WD's if you are coming off it. I detoxed so many times off sub,meth,brown,morphine & df's & as someone else said, any opiate has the potential to put you in withdrawal, & thats putting it mildly. I giving up heroin(again)& subs. I'm feeling rough, not "in it" but slowly getting there. When I 1st saw your posts I thought you may have not tried getting of subs, but the answers you seem to give people who are asking for advice & help tells me that you are having a bit of laugh. I take these comments back if you really believe subs dont make you cluck when coming off it. Sorry to jump in on this thread ChinaTiger & goodluck to your friend. I have shot up sub in the past & i didn't notice any "buzz" so your friend really should take it sublingually.

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