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    Default Taking other opiates while on Suboxone

    I was able to successfully use a short-term suboxone detox but throughout all of my research I noticed countless people wondering when they can take opiates again. If I understand correctly, suboxone has a higher affinity to bind to receptors in the brain allowing suppression of WD symptoms without any of your DOC. My question is, if someone is on suboxone and their receptors are bound to the suboxone would one still be able to become physically addicted to another opiate? I seem to picture these opiates freely floating around with no receptors to bind to, but I don't know if this means they have absolutely no effect or if it just means the user is unable to get high. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: Taking other opiates while on Suboxone

    Sube half life is about 36 hours. i.e. every 36 hours half the sube in your body is eliminated.
    Now you have to do the math as how much sube you were on before you last stopped taking it.

    If you take opiates (you are not saying why would you want to do this if you have already gone through detox !! ??) then the picture you have in your mind is more or less correct (at least this is what the medical establishment thinks so far) but it really has to do with how much Sube is sill in your body.

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    Default Re: Taking other opiates while on Suboxone

    Quote Originally Posted by dannyn View Post
    I was able to successfully use a short-term suboxone detox but throughout all of my research I noticed countless people wondering when they can take opiates again. If I understand correctly, suboxone has a higher affinity to bind to receptors in the brain allowing suppression of WD symptoms without any of your DOC. My question is, if someone is on suboxone and their receptors are bound to the suboxone would one still be able to become physically addicted to another opiate? I seem to picture these opiates freely floating around with no receptors to bind to, but I don't know if this means they have absolutely no effect or if it just means the user is unable to get high. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
    That's a good question. I dont clearly understand the medical end of addiction, but I get the same picture as you do...the opiate floating around with no place to go.
    But, my guess is that the Sub doesnt attach to all the same receptors that heroin or other pain meds do.
    I remember still having achey legs or some other mild symptom the first few days after getting on Sub, but as soon as I did a small amount of heroin, the symptoms went away. To me, it sounds like the heroin filled the still empty receptors that the Sub couldnt.
    Like I said...just a guess.

    Now, as far as getting re-addicted to other opiates while on Sub...ya got me, I dont have a clue. But here's the thing...All the time I was using the Sub I never felt like I was in recovery because I was still injesting an opiate. Sure it took the place of the street dope but the cells in my body didnt know the difference. To me I was still in active addiction and that just wasnt what I was looking for. I wanted complete abstinence like before.

    While on Sub I would come up with questions like yours "out of curiousity" is what I told myself. I know that was a load of crap because during a long period of complete abstinence (multiples of years), questions about drug use just didnt enter my mind.

    You said you're off the Sub now so the following paragraph is to everyone else in general who's still on it...
    Note that I am talking about "me". I am not judging anyone else who is using Sub. My opinion is if abstinance is your goal then try not to stay on the Sub for very long. However if you're looking to maintain your addiction then there would be no hurry, but the Sub will eventually turn on you. It always does.

    Interesting question though. You may want to ask yourself why you are wanting to know. No offense intended whatsoever. Welcome to ODR!

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    Default Re: Taking other opiates while on Suboxone

    Hi .. I just started suboxen today is day 3 I am reading post re getting off suboxen yikes scary .. How long does it take to become addicted to suboxen ? I used Percs for years and was afraid of withdrawals ...

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