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    Default Kratom for sub WD's?

    has anyone else tried this besides me? I think it works well. I'm down to 1 mg per day, been on it for 2 months now. I eat well, work out daily and have a recovery program, (sponsor, home group and committments). I also drink kratom tea and it alleviates most of the WD's. anyone else.

    I'm open to answer questions.

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    Kratom tea? Where do u get that? and can it be used for vic w/d?
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    Default Re: Kratom for sub WD's?

    I would advise staying away from kratom. It became my drug of choice very quickly. The powder doesn't seem so bad ... but it works as an opiate on your receptors. There are extract versions available that are very potent, however, and for a drug addict like me that's bad news.

    I quit hydrocodone in 2006 and started kratom a few months later.

    In August 2008 I got sober after blowing at least $40,000 on the 'harmless cure'.

    Do what you will, but this is my experience. I would have saved a lot of time, energy, money and heartache if I had never started the stuff to begin with. And there's a withdrawal from it as well. Extract WDs are just as bad as anything else you've experienced.

    Good luck
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    Default Re: Kratom for sub WD's?

    Where can I buy it?
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    Default Re: Kratom for sub WD's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piperkaye View Post
    Where can I buy it?
    At the drug store of despair!
    Ditch the Kratom anotherday.....then A) don't spike the sub dose B) once stable ...hopefully under 2mg...then work a taper from sub about 1 week post K jump.
    You can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking that caused them in the first place.

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    Default Re: Kratom for sub WD's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piperkaye View Post
    Where can I buy it?
    You read all that and you still want to buy it?

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    Default Re: Kratom for sub WD's?

    Ya know ... I am always so reluctant to post my experience with kratom or to even talk about it with other addicts, especially ones that are wavering, so I hardly ever do. Any time I tell my experience with the crap, that's inevitably the set of questions that follows: 'where do I buy it?' 'what is it?' 'what does it look like?' 'what does it do?' ... all asked with the same gleam in the eye, the same inflection, the same deep curiosity. The 40 grand I blew and the miserable life I led on the stuff doesn't even register ... EXCEPT with 'normies', who look at me like I'm nuts.

    So, I would say for sure that anyone who has that gut reaction of 'how much/where/when/tell me tell me tell me' needs to look at their motives around it or at least seriously question why the hell they would want to literally eat dirt and pay to do it. On one hand I always want to warn warn warn everyone of the experience. On the other, I feel like real addicts may be way too titillated to do anything but drool at the potential possibilities or rationalize their way out of it. The last thing I want to do is preach or come off like I'm high and mighty about anyone else's behavior. But I really struggle with that. Do I warn? Do I even try? Is it better to just be quiet? Because the very idea of my experience even REMOTELY turning anyone else on to the sheer hell I lived with that crap makes me friggin sick.

    Of course, I told myself that that would NEVER be me, and how the HELL could that stuff be addictive, and you'd have to be a real idiot or wuss or whatever ... I knew everything and no one coulda told me jack ... it sure SEEMED better than a pain pill addiction ... I just wish I could SHAKE folks sometimes.

    No offense to you Piperkaye. But trust me that's the last thing you need.

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    Default Re: Kratom for sub WD's?

    Sage post Dani!
    You can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking that caused them in the first place.

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    Welp I won't buy any of that and just get thru the pain on my own since its my own fault. thanks for talking me out of it!!!
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    Default Re: Kratom for sub WD's?

    If you would like to read the details of Dani's hell...
    click here Kratom: A Big Fat Warning
    and here Recovery Journal: Kratom to Sub, then off.

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    Thank you, I read her story. What a nightmare, ummm...no thanks!!!! I'll just suck it up and continue sobriety....
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    It warms my heart to hear you say that Piperkaye. You rock! Go for it.

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