Thread: Will Sub block Tramadol?

Hi Guys,

First, I have never gotten any 'buzz' from tramadol. Or at least I don't think I have. I am ot sure that I have taken it before I started on sub. Anyway, I was curious if suboxone also blocks Tramadol/Ultram.
I 'thought' I had read somewhere that while tramadol is not a narcotic, it does work on the same receptors. Which would make me think that it would be blocked as well as opiates.

If anyone knows the answer, please share.[:I]
No, I am not trying to get myself hooked on tramadol, I was just hoping it might be a viable alternative to hydro for pain occassionally. I have tried one or two at a time, never more, and felt no pain relief or anything. But my hubby seems to get relief from it, so could my sub be blocking it?

yes it does block Tramadol as far as what my doctor said!

Careful with Ultram. Read all side affects in prescribing literature. Serious side affects are not uncommon with Ultram, especially if you take too much of it. Can cause sezures, even in non-sezure prone patients.

I agree with the answers you got above. Ultram is addictive, even if you don't get a buzz from it you can get a physical dependence. I have talked to people who have had a VERY hard time getting off it. And the seizures, etc....

Plus...from what I understand, it IS blocked by the sub...makes sense, since it would work on the same receptors that bupe attaches to, thereby blocking any euphoria AND pain relief from the tramadol.

Ashley

quote:Originally posted by ashley80

I agree with the answers you got above. Ultram is addictive, even if you don't get a buzz from it you can get a physical dependence. I have talked to people who have had a VERY hard time getting off it. And the seizures, etc....

Plus...from what I understand, it IS blocked by the sub...makes sense, since it would work on the same receptors that bupe attaches to, thereby blocking any euphoria AND pain relief from the tramadol.

Ashley

Hi Ashley,

Thanks for the reply. I also read reports of Ultram being very hard to get off...thus I would of course be very hare to get off of. Thus my use of the word 'occasionally' in my post. (Please don't read into that as beinga smart ***...I do not mean it that way at all!)

Trust me, I won't be hooked on anything else. Had I realized that hydro could be an actual 'physical' addiction, I would have been much more careful with it. I know that sounds naive, but my Doc prescribed it to me daily for months w/o ever telling me that it was addictive. 'Physcologically' I knew that it could be, simply from as much as I liked using it, but I was very naive about addiction. I take over my life. [V] I thought only of 'street' drugs, when I thought of addiction.
Yep, pretty stupid!

careful with that!

the withdraw potencial of the mix (tramadol/sub) is not that high but exists and certainly sub (cause of it's binding potencial) will remove tramadol and demethyl-tramadol from mu receptor sites!

Now for tramadol... most of it's action is from SRI (serotonin/nor-epinephine(adrenaline)) reuptake inibitor) action! u can see that by using naloxone does not block all of the analgesia produced by tramadol use! But the amount of extra catecholamines in the brain (specially noradrenalin) can be quite strefull if ur in withdraw!

Remember tramadol (as well as low doses of codeine) is for ppl with a low/moderate pain and for ppl with no stronger opiates history use!

Don't mix those!