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    brunette princess Guest

    Default can any psychiatrist prescribe sub?

    i got an appointment with a sub dr from the list. but my insurance wont cover him. they WILL cover chemical dependency outpatient treatment if i go to one of thier pshycologists on their list. what can he do to help me with w/d? im scared to go to the (psychologist/shrink whatever he is) and then go home with no meds to help me. but i dont really have the money to pay on my own, either. (250 for one dr visit is way more than my drugs ever cost in a month)

    any one know about psychologists and how they help?

    thanks

    edit: i just called the sub dr to see what would happen with the insurance. apparently the receptionist f-ed up because he doesnt take new patients anymore. so if i had shown up on tuesday, they wouldve turned me away. i am so mad and dicouraged. now i have to start all over. ive called 3 dr's on my insurance list and not one of them can help me. they either say they DONT take HMO or they done "specialize" in drug abuse. this is harder than i thought. gee, what else can i do?

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    BP.

    $250 is more than you spent in a month on drugs? you don't need suboxone if this is the truth. That is at most 7 bucks a day?????

    I apologize in advance if i misunderstood you . . :)

    Tom

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    my sub doc is a psychiatrist.if i am correct psychologist can't prescribe medicine thats what psychiatrists do.allgood has a great point that this treatment wont cost as much as your addiction did.i am not just talking about $$$ but spiritually and health wise too.give it a try and i bet you will be happy you did.my initial cost was $250 and follow ups are $100 (every 3 weeks).it is worth it to me to not be killing myself any more.

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    yeah, i would get 120 pills for $90 and then another bottle of 90 for $70- so thats $160 a month for 210 pills a month. 210 pills divided by 30 days is 7 pills a day. i have severe withdrawal if im not on them, so doesnt that qualify me for sub- not the amount i pay for the pills?

    if not, what do i do about w/d symptoms? do i have to suffer because i dont take 20 a day?

    its doesnt matter because they cancelled my appointment anyway.

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    ps- im not saying it isnt worth the cost- im saying i want to use my insurance. it covers drug dependency for a reason, so why not take advantage of it?? im just trying to get some help, sub or not.

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    DON'T LET THEM CANCEL IT!!! Call back quick, explain to them how much you need to do this . . . why did they cancel, they can't just go do that without asking you??

    You need to keep looking, someone will take you. . . . go there and wait if you have to. My insurance covers it too, but I found that most docs were booked with the max of 30 patients (SUCH A DUMB RULE!), so I paid under the table . . . . couldn't wait, would have continued to abuse . . . . How long have you been using?

    what state are u in if you don't mind us askin? U CAN DO IT!!

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    i called them to check on how much to pay. they said he doesnt take new patients. i said "then how did i get an appt yesterday?" she said they made a mistake. i said that was really shi**y of them to do. she said sorry and hung up. so forget them.

    ive been on lortab 10/325 for 3 years (5 years total of painkillers) im surprised i dont take more, but im really small and i get sick off of them easily. ive od'd before on them, so im careful.

    i want to call my insurance and scream at them. all the numbers they give me are wrong or cant help. some help they are.

    i really want to quit. ive been planning on it and thinking about it for months. im ready. i quit smoking. i started zoloft for anxiety and depression, i want this gone from my life. but this is hard.
    i will not give up! im stubborn to say the least and i do want this- so i cant let a little set back deter me.

    edit: im tired and sad right now, so i will make more phone calls tomorrow. i will also try to find a way to come up with some money if i have to.

    i got a reccommendation for a dr in schaumburg ( i live in chicago) i havent called her yet. anyone else in chicago that has suggestions? anyone with HMO? i guess i should be lucky that i even have an insurance option. i must sound like a jerk to those with no insurance at all.

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    Brunette, keep calling doctors on the sub list. You are going to have to pay for it yourself, most likely, but trust me, it's better than cold turkey, OR staying on the pills. Sorry, I don't have much time to say more, but that's the long and short of it. Get into a sub doc ASAP, if you keep calling you'll find one with an opening.
    You can go to a psychologist till you are blue in the face, but if you're still on the pills, it won't help. Sorry to be blunt, I'm in a hurry. Hang in, it will work out.

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    blunt is good! even if i dont like the answer, at least its an answer and i wont waste any time.
    i have made myself a list of drs and i will call them all tomorrow. i will find a way to pay. i wont worry about my insurance right now. im so mad at them anyway. maybe they will cover my pills.
    ashley- youre right- psychologists arent going to help me in the way i feel i need help. thank you for being direct- thats what i need, too. i will report back tomorrow with less whining, i promise!
    thanks allgood, too

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    Psychologists can't prescribe anything but I was under the impression that psychiatrist's can write for subs because their training in addiction is much more than the 8 hours or whatever doctors go through to get the accreditation for bup. I would look into it if your insurance will cover psychiatric problems.



    the BOSS

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    i have found that a lot of psychiatrists also specialize in addiction medicine.I don't have insurance and always manage to come up with the money.i came up with the money for pills so i can come up with the money for sub.i even work 2 jobs to do so.i agree with sail and present it to your insurance as a psychiatric problem.don't give up.i know you are frustrated but dont give up.we all have moments when we whine out of being sick and tired of being sick and tired.it will work out.

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    just wanted to update:
    i am in w/d now, and have been since last nite. i only took 4 yesterday (most of those were cut in half and taken only when needed) i took tylenol PM so i could sleep.
    i have the yawns, the chills, watery eyes and nose, and of course, my favorite, severe aches in my legs.
    im at work now, so i took a half of one to feel a little better. today on break, i will take my cel phone down to the car and call every dr on that list until i find one that will see me. even if its in a bad neighborhood (which a lot of mine are) i hope to only have 3 today.

    any one know if when tapering, does w/d ever go away? say if i taper for a week, will i ever feel any better, or will i forever be in w/d until im for real clean?


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