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    Default Counterfeit Suboxone?

    Hi, I went to see a chinese doctor licensed to prescribe suboxone and went on to
    fill my prescription of 14 pills 8mg each, in a pharmacy adjacent to his office in China town
    here in New York City.
    I was not surprise it was cheaper than in other pharmacies because that's often the case in China town things are cheaper, I paid $6 dollar for each pill instead of the 7 and something$ they usually charge other pharmacies like Duane Reade around the city.
    I seem to notice some kind of difference though, the $6 batch seems to have less potency and when it melts under my tongue it doesn't produce the same amount of juice, and
    doesn't seem to have that typical strong almost unpleasant flavor that suboxone has, I mean it tastes like suboxone but not as intense as suboxone usually tastes.
    Is there any remote possibility that what I bought is counterfeit suboxone?
    and is there a way to tell if the suboxone that I bought is or not the real thing?


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    I've had seemingly different types before, though never less potent. But I did notice a difference in the way they dissolved and what not. I had a batch that seemed to gell, turn into a glob of slime and didn't seem to breakdown or dissolve any furthur until I swallowed it, kinda gross. Where as normally it just dissolves, maybe they changed the formula, I remember I use to get morphine that would turn to gell when I tried to dissolve it for injection so perhaps the suboxone company was trying to do something similar with the suboxone formula to deter people from injecting it, as if naloxone and precipetated withdrawal isn't enough of a deterrent...

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    What counts is how it works. If he's a licensed physician - I'd imagine it's real.

    Did it cover your withdrawals?

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    I have heard that there is counterfeit buprenorphine, that looks like 2mg temgesic, but I don't know about counterfeit Suboxone. It's possible, I guess.


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    I quess the counterfiet Sub is possible? After all China has to do something with all the recalled dogfood.JK.[:I]

    Sounds more like the pills were subjected to high humidity.....or old age,or both.

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    yes maybe they replaced it with lead like the dog food.j/k its probably real.i know there are messesd up people out there but i dont think anyone is heartless enough to make money off fake suboxone

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    quote:Originally posted by Watty Watts

    yes maybe they replaced it with lead like the dog food.j/k its probably real.i know there are messesd up people out there but i dont think anyone is heartless enough to make money off fake suboxone
    I think there are many that would try and make money off fake sub or anything. It does sound like they have been exposed to moisture or something..

    I would take them back to the pharm and ask them to take a close look at them and maybe replace what you have left.

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    quote:Originally posted by geo

    Hi, I went to see a chinese doctor licensed to prescribe suboxone and went on to
    fill my prescription of 14 pills 8mg each, in a pharmacy adjacent to his office in China town
    here in New York City.
    I was not surprise it was cheaper than in other pharmacies because that's often the case in China town things are cheaper, I paid $6 dollar for each pill instead of the 7 and something$ they usually charge other pharmacies like Duane Reade around the city.
    I seem to notice some kind of difference though, the $6 batch seems to have less potency and when it melts under my tongue it doesn't produce the same amount of juice, and
    doesn't seem to have that typical strong almost unpleasant flavor that suboxone has, I mean it tastes like suboxone but not as intense as suboxone usually tastes.
    Is there any remote possibility that what I bought is counterfeit suboxone and is there a way to tell if the suboxone that I bought is or not the real thing??

    In my experience, the chances (certainly are NOT remote) that you've been dispensed counterfeit Suboxone.

    I saw a documentary recently that presented myriad counterfeit medications ranging from BP meds to ED meds and everything in between. Some of the counterfeits were not only inert, but chemically dangerous. Moreover, some of the fake medications even fooled experts and investigators. I'm not suggesting that you're dealing with a rogue pharmacy; the problem is so much larger than that. Unsuspecting pharmacies too have fallen prey.

    Not trying to scare you, but am trying to educate you that far more counterfeit meds make it to our shores than most realize.(But unlike other counterfeits like watches and blue jeans, the potential for physical harm puts this in a class of its own.) We're talking about a plus-billion dollar industry (pharmaceuticals). Everyone wants a piece of it. Play it safe and deal with known entities.

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    Default re: Counterfeit Suboxone?

    There is an increasing desire to purchase this drug on the street (without a prescription). Once a drug has a street demand counterfeiters will supply. I would think that the counterfeits would be found in the pockets of street peddlers, and not local pharmacist who lack integrity. Nonetheless, there is huge $$$$ involved, and who to pedal more pills than the local pharmacist. In short, the counterfeit suboxone should have some distinction to determine it is not authentic. Presently there is no generic suboxone (although there probably will be very soon). The manufacturer's (Reckitt Benckiser) exclusive right recently expired, meaning other pharmaceutical companies can create a generic version, and probably at a much cheaper cost. Many speculate this is the reason why Reckitt held off on releasing the sublingual films (sole manufacturer and no generic permitted till 2013). How does this all ties into the counterfeiting. I recently saw about 20 8 mil suboxone pills that were purchased from a street peddler. The coating appeared significantly different that the Reckit Benckiser (the manufacturer) original suboxone. Their is normally a lightly shinny coating on suboxone. The street peddler's appeared chalky. It could be that they were not properly stored and bounced around wearing off the coating. When you fill your prescription, read the label. It should read in tiny letters MFR: Reckitt Benckiser. This company is also the Lblr and Repackager. HOWEVER, there are 10 other approved repackagers, who can handle the pills for packaging and distribution purposes (I do not believe they can manufacture the product for Reckit, although I am not 100% sure). The pills that appear counterfeit may very well be handled by a company other than Reckitt (read the very fine print on your pill bottle). Below are the list of other companies approved to handle the repackaging and distribution of suboxone. What does your pill bottle read????

    Other Manufacturers / Repackagers:
    NDC Code Manufacturer / Repackager
    54569-5739 A S Medication Solutions LLC (repackager)
    16590-0667 Stat RX USA LLC (repackager)
    43063-0184 PDRX Pharmaceuticals Inc (repackager)
    63874-1084 Altura Pharmaceuticals Inc (repackager)
    52959-0304 H.J. Harkins Company, Inc (repackager)
    35356-0004 Lake Erie Medical and Surgical Supply (repackager)
    23490-9270 Palmetto State Pharmaceuticals Inc (repackager)
    55045-3784 Dispensing Solutions Inc. (repackager)
    54868-5707 Physicians Total Care Inc (repackager)
    68071-1380 Nucare Pharmaceuticals Inc (repackager)

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