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    Default Can u have oral dental surgery while on sub?

    Some dentist's are not going ahead with extracting my teeth saying that am on the sub and the anethesia dont mix cuz it can become fatal, they say u just need to get the teeth/tooth extracted in the dental office but it wud hurt, is this true? if ur on sub u cant have surgery on teeth? am sure they have things and ways as substitue and protocol/procedures in place for this, i dont wana go tru pain of extractting impacted teeth as normal extractions just cuz am on sub, i dnt kno wat to do man.

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    Destiny,

    You are talking about putting you under (they often use IV valium for this and benzos CAN be risky with sub).....and not talking about using novacaine, right? Can this dentist use novacaine for you?

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    I dont know, they just said putting u to sleep is risky so thefore general anesthetic will have to do, i dont mind that but i also dont want to go through the pain, is it still possible to get impacted teeth out in a normal dental office? & is it true its difficult for people on sub to be sedated during dental operations?

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    OK...so in other words they don't want to "put you to sleep" with the IV valium (probably because the valium is a benzo and should not be used with sub, technically) but they are still willing to give you general anesthesia?
    They used to give general anesthesia in the office to remove wisdom teeth but I'm not sure if they can still do it or if they do it where you live.

    Or did you mean local anesthesia with novacaine?

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    Sorry Suk, i dont know much about names or what kind of these meds they shoot u up with, lol, they (Dentist) say they can give me the normal anesthic where u tooth/teeth/area of mouth become numb but am still awake, i belived for impacted Teeth/Tooth/Wisdom they have to put u to sleep? i dont know if its true they cant put u to sleep because ur on sub cuz maybe they dont want to take the risk & dont know much about sub & its mixing with particular sedatives, but i did assume they are always prepared for these things, am hoping normal anesthic wont be too bad while they extract my impacted widom tooth but them (Dentist) telling me i will through some sort of pain does't help.

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    Extracting a tooth, with or without anasthesia will hurt. Read the disclaimer on top of the board-no one here is more qualified to give you advice on putting you out, other than the person administering it. If he or she has any doubt, they will err on the side of caution. They are doing this to protect you. Most of the people the dentists treat are not taking opiates so sub throws an new variable in, one that can alter respiration and heart rate.

    You have been on this board long enough to know the down sides of sub-one being what happens if you need pain relief after an accident or on an emergency basis-this is why they give you that card to carry when they perscribe it to you. Getting your wisdom teeth out is not the worst thing you can go through. I had it done in pre opiate days and Motrin seemed to handle the pain just fine.

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    So your saying they dont have to put me to sleep to get the wisdom toth out?

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    Destiny-i dont know if your reply was directed to me, if it was-here is my answer. Ask your dentist. Nobody here can answer thes3e questions better than your dentist. My wisdom teeth were impacted and that may complicate things-read Dee's post in a similar thread about inflammation and ice. I got through it with Motrin.

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    Your being too negative, its only a tooth being pulled for God sake , lol, not like am gona die, God forbid.

    I have had my Wisdom teeth & other Molars taken out before awake only with making the teeth/tooth numb & the mought & thats it, wasnt put to sleep, they knew i was on the Subutex but they didnt seem to be suprised or anything, they just said Sub helps, lol, cuz its an pain killer kind of.

    My only worry is that the Wisdom tooth in Question is a bit small, i mean i can see it, just wondering what the dentist might do, but i they know evertything & at the moment am in no pain cuz am taking Metrenadzile Antibiotic.

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    quote:Originally posted by Welsh_lassy

    So your saying they dont have to put me to sleep to get the wisdom toth out?

    Destiny
    I'm no doctor; the input you've received some our fellow members is right on, IMO; you need to contact your dentist. A popular idea as far as ANY surgery is concerned, dental or otherwise, is to switch from Sub to short-acting agonists several days prior to surgery, then back to Sub (or off IT too) once post-op pain relief is no longer needed.

    That too is risky for some addicts, myself included. I absolutely cannot subject myself to agonists unless we're talking about a life-saving procedure. Bottom line is this:

    "Information in this forum is not monitored or provided by a medical professional. The information reflects member opinions only. Do not act on advice from these forums without first consulting a qualified medical professional. All content is copyrighted and protected by Aelius Group."

    This reminds me of a guy I know from AA, guy nicknamed "Wrench", who had been in recovery five years before getting in a serious auto accident. Despite broken bones and facial lacerations, he told the doctor to adminster NO narcotics. He wasn't on Sub...it's just that I remember hearing this story and feeling like such a wuss. I'm not saying that you won't need pain relief, only you can answer that. What I AM saying though, is that you ought have that quiet conversation with yourself in advance. Kinda like you ARE doing with the wisdom tooth sitch. :)

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    Please let us know what you decide, and how things turn out for you..

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    Am sure when they made the Sub they thought what happens if a sub taker needs surgery of any kind or get injured.

    Am sure there must be procedures & substitutes in place for these kind of things.

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    They're also "sure" that it doesn't have any W/D. LOL.

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