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    I have an abscessed molar, and it hurts. I took some penicillin about 3pm and hopefully it should begin soon to ease the pain. I have plenty of suboxone, but, how much will it take?

    I have taken sublingually 4 today already, and my doc told me that it will work for the pain.

    Just wondering if anyone has been jammed up with a toothache, and had to use suboxone for the pain, and did it help.

    What a hell of a fix to be in if you have to wait 24 or 26 hours before you can get any pain relief, unless of course they put novacaine in it.

    Any one have a similar situation?

    Thanks to everyone for all your help and sharing.

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    Hi Mtgoat,

    Thanks for your response. The 4 suboxone (8mg each) have helped tremendously with the pain. My Doctor told me to take them for pain. He has had patients who have taken more than 32 mgs after orthapedic hip surgeery. Thus, so far he is correct in that they help with pain

    Thank you for sharing. Suboxone has to be taken sublingual as to swollow them does no good. They put the naloxone in it so that it cannot be taken IV. a

    I have never heard that methodone or hydrocodone destroys teeth. I have heard that meth amphetimines do.


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    quote:Originally posted by Voltaire

    Hi Mtgoat,

    Thanks for your response. The 4 suboxone (8mg each) have helped tremendously with the pain. My Doctor told me to take them for pain. He has had patients who have taken more than 32 mgs after orthapedic hip surgeery. Thus, so far he is correct in that they help with pain

    Thank you for sharing. Suboxone has to be taken sublingual as to swollow them does no good. They put the naloxone in it so that it cannot be taken IV. a

    I have never heard that methodone or hydrocodone destroys teeth. I have heard that meth amphetimines do.

    Methadone is notorious for rotting teeth. Scads of toothless addicts on MMT....if you go around a clinic....its frighteningly apparent. Opioids in general....and Methadone in specific...cause dry mouth (no saliva)...breeding ground for bacteria. Methadone has a bonus...its not calcium friendly.

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    Thanks arlenewla for the info. So addicts are notorious for having bad teeth, even if they get regular check ups, and brush every day religiously? I would be more inclined to think that severe addicts have very low / poor hygeine, and for that reason their teeth rot, more than a dry mouth? How dry can a mouth get? hehe. Well, that's interesting. Are there any studies on this? Just wondering.

    Thanks again.

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    quote:Originally posted by Voltaire
    Are there any studies on this? Just wondering.

    Thanks again.
    Hi Voltaire .....

    LOL! How dry can a mouth get? Pretty freaking dry when its on 100s of mgs of Methadone.

    Studies? Prolly. And all the studies I know of...real time...are on the Methadone forum. Me....I had 3 teeth left in my mouth when I came into recovery.

    I have the gift of Methadentures now.:D

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    Voltaire.....I had alot of tooth pain while on sub. More so when tapering. Most folks don't report the sub as a good pain reliever. But at 32mg (doc's script [?]) , I'd suspect a huge dose of an opiod would help in forgetting the pain...for a short time.[xx(]

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    And since noone else has done so, let me be the first to warn you that you could be putting yourself in harm's way by taking so much. The way Buprenorphine accumulates in your system is serious, and will make it MUCH, MUCH harder to come off of when you are ready to quit.

    If Sub is actually working for your pain, I'd ask the doc for some Darvocet.

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    I'd be surprised that 32mg would work better than 2mg of sub. I would think the opposite would be true, due to the blocking effect of sub at high doses. I know, we addicts think more is more, as do many doc's, but in the case of this mixed agonist/antagonist, it isn't the case. How about some good old fashioned topical lidocaine?
    As far as having bad teeth from methadone is concerned, as Arlene pointed out, meth leeches calcium from your bones. So, after a while, the maxilla and mandible, (jaw bones), become too porus to anchor the teeth. Score another one for a maintenance drug...sigh.
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    Since ive been taking subutex i have had terrible toothaches, had to get 4 teeth taken out in 3 years.

    All because of the sub, it is related to the sub as dentist said cuz it goes in ur teeth and does all kinds of shyte, i never had tooth trouble before either.

    I got infections and dat , enough pain that not even sub was working on them so had to get em out, i tried antibiotics but they never worked, maybe cuz of the sub but thankgod am fine now.

    Hope ya get well, always brush ur teeth & always gargle water every 1 hour.

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    At first I thought i was confused about what the cause of bad teeth is, now I am really confused.

    heh heh. Dry mouth, sub causing tooth decay (and pain), more sub for pain (as per doc), more sub causes more pain (due to blocking).

    I dont want to take any opiates. EVER again. My life and body has taken all the abuse I am going to let it get from being a G damn druggie, whats left of it.

    I'm not going to get the implants and just get some extractions. If the pain is too strong for aspirin or ibuprofen, then, i will take an opiate, but only for 24hrs.

    I guess I need to take my last sub 36 hours before the extraction.

    Thank you everyone for sharing, I do value what your experiences are.

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    Can they you be given general anthesia or however u spell it, the one where it puts u to sleep, is this allowed and sensabile while ur on sub? if not then how can they extract teeth which need to be done surgically? thanks.

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